Hi,
When I click away from a tab in a lister, the contents of the tab is normally reset to its previous state, unless I select "Update" in the tab's context menu before navigating somewhere else. My question is: Is there a way to avoid having to click 'Update', i.e. make any changes to the tab permanent automatically?
Kind regards,
Armin
I think you're referring to "Style" tabs on the "tabbar" and not "folder tabs"... in this case, what sort of changes are you even talking about? When you click on a STYLE tab, it's basically supposed to apply formatting to the folder you're browsing (and perhaps load a particular folder if you've configured it to do so)... so what exactly are you "updating" so often.
You are right - sorry for the confusion. It is the Styles tab on the tab bar, and more precisely the Update command in a style tab's context-menu I am referring to. In the example screenshot, you can see that in my configuration the style "MHT-Projekte" holds a number of folder tabs, each belonging to a certain project. If I navigate between styles, I always have to click Update (highlighted on the screenshot), otherwise the folder tab display will revert to it's previous settings (folder sort order, folder currently open, etc.). I would prefer not having to click Update for DOpus to remember the folder tab settings when navigating away from a folder. Is it clearer now?
Kind regards,
Armin
So you're using styles to create tabs of folder tabs?
As far as I know there is no way to auto-update the current style when changing to another one. I think you'll have to ask GPSoft if they'd add such an option.
Still fuzzy on exactly what you feel needs to be 'updated' about the style... can you specific example? I'm familiar with the 'update' context button on styles... but let me explain my confusion about your question (the details are different of course than your actual scenario - but this is what I'm envisioning):
If you've got a style called "MHT - Projekte" that load folders 1, 3, and 5 into tabs and sorts all of them by filename, when you click on that style, you'd expect those folder tabs to open and the sorting to be how you've set in the style...
The let's say you click on a style called "MHT - Alles" which loads folders 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 all into folder tabs, but sorts them by date...
If you HAD Projekte selected, and then clicked on to another Style like Alles which loaded IT'S settings, then clicked BACK to Projekte... I'd expect that the settings from Projekte should get reloaded... i.e. show just folders 1, 3, and 5 all sorted by filename.
Can you compare to your scenario, and what happens differently than expected or described above? And whether or not you're making any formatting changes that you want to 'update' one of the styles to use while switching between styles?
Steje,
You are getting closer. But have a look at the AVI file under http://www.mutscheller.de/snagtmp.avi, I recommend you use slow motion replay. (For some strange reason, the mouse cursor is invisible, but you should still get an impression of what I mean.) Observe the following:
(1) Initially, style 'MHT-Projekte' is active, with folder tab '1187...' selected. Folder tab '1187...' displays a set of folders, with the topmost folder '00...' highlighted.
(2) The highlighted folder '00...' is opened to display its contents.
(3) I navigate away from style tab 'MHT-Projekte' and click on style tab 'Organisation' WITHOUT selecting 'Update' in the context menu of the 'MHT-Projekte' tab.
(4) I navigate away from style tab 'Organisation' and return to style tab 'MHT-Projekte'.
What is displayed now on folder tab '1187...' is essentially the same as in step (1). But what I would like to see is the opened folder '00...' as in step (2). This would have been the case, had I used the 'Update' command before going from (2) to (3). But I would like to avoid constantly having to use the 'Update' command, because it can be quite bothersome. Let me know if there is anything else you need to know...
Kind regards,
Armin
Will take a look a while later - need to eat 
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Ok, so a few comments:
The "mouse cursor is invisible" thing I think is a result of the mouse being rendered by a different part of Windows than that which snagit hooks into to record. Same thing happens when you hit PrtSc to capture screenshots :frowning:.I see what you're doing... and it's like I thought. Not that it changes anything - Nudel was right, it would need an enhancement... I was just curious about what use you would have for such a thing.
My two cents? Styles load alot of things including (as you're using them) folder paths. So it would seem strange to me to have gone through the trouble of setting a style to save folder paths for something like a 'project', and have ~any~ change you make on that project automatically saved during just this one working 'session'.
For instance, if you've navigated to different folders within all of the tabs saved as part of your style... sub-dirs, parent dirs, maybe even added some new folder tabs to temporarily get to some data not normally represented by it's own folder tab in your style... and all of those changes get saved, and you shut down for the day. Well what happens when you start working tomorrow? Wouldn't you want the 'base' folders you used to have saved in your style be loaded up when you begin working for the day?
Just seems weird to me... but by all means, submit a request to GPSoft. I'm not criticising, just my opinion that such a thing would be sort of chaotic for me. But then... I guess it's sort of just a 'Styles' level version of the 'Update Default Lister automatically when closing a lister' option. If others would want that - then I guess there would be an argument for having a similar option for saved layouts as well.
I guess I do this kind of thing all the time, but instead of doing it via Styles tabs I open more than one top-level widow and switch between those.
This idea basically collapses several top-level windows for different projects into tabs-of-tabs. The Styles system wasn't really designed for doing it but it almost works, and maybe could work perfectly with a few changes.
Hmmm... now that we vet it out a little more... the phrase "tabs-of-tabs" makes me think it WOULD be neat if some sort of 'temporary' auto-update option could be enabled for Styles... what would you think if there were multiple levels of auto-update:
The first would be simply what's been described here so far... as you make any changes that are capable of being saved in a Style (formatting, folder paths, view mode, etc etc) they are saved to update the Style you clicked on last. If you close that lister and open a new one, or shut down for the day and come back tomorrow - clicking on that Style will show you the last view that was auto-updated to the Style... It's a direct global 'Styles' equivilant of the 'Update Default Lister automatically when closing a lister' option.
The second, would ONLY save changes to the Style settings in a transient manner... for the 'local' Lister. If you were to click on another Style, and then back again - you would be returned to the last state you had been in before switching to the other Style... But if you were to open a new Lister with or without exiting and restarting Opus, clicking on that same Style would load the 'original' permanent saved Styles settings.
If you manually selected 'Update' from the Styles tab context menu - I'd expect the current settings to STILL be saved 'permanently' to the Style though... However, with this 'local' or 'per-lister-instance' auto-update feature, I'd also then want to see a 'Reload' item on the Style context menu that if selected would revert any 'auto-saved' changes to the Style for that lister back to the 'permanent' Style settings...
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I think something like this would then actually make me use Styles 
... And is definitely like a 'tab of tabs' sort of extension to the use of Styles that would make those wanting to use 'a single lister instance' able to do so with a little more manageability... especially if they would sometimes want to use Styles that load a boatload of folder tabs... and when you wanted to go do a file mgmt. task outside the scope or set of folders of an already opened and auto-updated ~uber-styel~ you could so, cut down on folder tab clutter momentarily, then get back to the last state of your 24 folder tab auto-updated madness...