I have a folder layout to give me an overview of my local system, which I have used for a very long time.
Somewhere around 6 months ago, I think, it started acting up in that some of the fields disappear.
Notice it's the same saved folder layout.
This is how it is supposed to look (stretch browser window to see complete width)
Here are the [missing] options when it doesn't work
I've tried all fashion of tracking the issue down (which in turn led me to my previous long-winded help topic regarding layouts) but I can't make heads nor tails of what is happening here, except that field declarations go missing.
The first tab is laid out ("folder layout") in the format shown in the first image.
I don't do anything to get the abnormal results; it's happens automatically as I stated about 40% of the time.
I have this particular layout/format/schema - whatever as the first tab in many of my saved folder tab groups and it matters not which one I choose.
As I mentioned, it started about six months ago or so, and my attempts to track it down led me to the whole other thread trying to see the underlying makeup of the listers (which you've informed me can't be done).
Just so there is no misunderstanding: I don't do anything to get the results - as shown in image #4 the fields are non-existent and are not available to be chosen, for example "Freespace" is not in the available fields.
The term Layout has a very specific meaning in Opus, so if you're using it as a generic term to describe something else then we're going to confuse each other.
Please answer my question about how, starting with no windows open, you arrive at what you are seeing. If you are really starting with no windows open and then "doing nothing" then you would still not have any windows open. What action are you taking to open the window in your screenshot? This is important because there are lots of different actions you can take in Opus to open windows and the exact details matter if you want to change what happens.
Leo isn't asking for more specific percentages. Leo is asking how the window actually gets opened.
For example, does it open when the computer boots, when you double-click the Opus icon on the desktop, when you double-click the desktop itself, when you double-click the icon in the tray, when you press Windows+E, when you press another key sequence that you've configured, when you double-click a left out layout icon, when you double-click a left out command file, when you click a button in a floating toolbar, or when you double-click the Computer icon on the desktop?
My primary method is starting manually from the taskbar shortcut, but occasionally I use the desktop icon.
I also have the normal shortcut in the start menu which I rarely use.
The 'double click desktop' option is disabled.
The method of initialization has not been seen to alter the outcome.
Under Preferences / Launching Opus, please show us the Default Lister + From the Taskbar Icon + Startup pages.
Those should tell us exactly what is being launched, and point to what might need to be checked/edited.
Also, where is the "Cust Fav Computer Overview_1" folder format coming from in your last screenshot? That looks like a saved format is being edited via Preferences / Folders / Folder Formats: Favorite Formats, unless there's another way to get a custom format name into the window title which I can't think of (which is possible).
Folder Formats for the Computer folder are special (since it contains columns which do not exist in normal folders, and vice versa) and may not work when saved as a Favorite Format. But Favorite Formats can only be applied manually, as far as I know, so they shouldn't be a factor in what happens when a new window opens, unless there's something I'm not thinking of.
Here's a host of screen shots. (did I miss any?)
I attempted to send the .oll file in question, but that extension is not allowed.
If you want it I can zip it.
(There are several .oll's that share this scheme and all suffer from the same abnormality)
There was a time, last year and before, when the values were seen in the following dialog box, but now are blank.
However, they are seen when right clicking on the folder tab column headers and choosing from fields to show.
(see xray003.PNG)
Yes, in one case you are opening the default lister while in the other you're opening a lister layout which you've created, so that most likely accounts for the difference.
The only way I can think of to get that folder format with the blanked out Computer specific display field names is if you right click on the 'Computer' format under 'System folders' in Prefs, then 'paste' it onto another 'Favorite' format... I don't think that "Cust Fav Computer Overview_1" format can effectively be doing anything for you, and is something you may as well delete.
There was a time when the field names were present and the user (me) could design the layout shown in the screen shot at the top.
That capability is gone now, but the layouts I created at that time still exist, and I use them everyday.
The reason the fields in that Favorite Format have blank names is as I described earlier:
The Cust Fav Computer Overview_1 Favorite Format in the screenshot above will not be a factor in what you see when you open a Lister Layout, nor in what you see when you open the Default Lister.The Cust Fav Computer Overview_1 Favorite Format is probably not useful and likely only confusing the situation; I would delete it to simplify things, unless there is some reason to keep it.
On the other hand, the Computer format (in the System Folders part of the Folder Formats preferences page) may be a factor:
Whether or not the Computer format is used when you open a new window depends on whether or not the Lister Layout or Default Lister (whichever you are opening) are set to ignore their own formats. If they contain and use their own formats then they will override the Computer format, and you'll need to edit whichever of the Lister Layout or the Default Lister is going wrong so they show the desired columns, and then re-save them. (Or you could turn on the appropriate flags to tell them to ignore their formats, so that the Computer format is the only one which matters.)
He also mentioned "I have this particular layout/format/schema - whatever as the first tab in many of my saved folder tab groups" which made me look at things through the Tab Groups page in Prefs. If you save a tab group with the Computer opened as one of the tabs, then go into the tab groups page and edit the format for the Computer tab, you also get the blanked out field names there... but that's obviously different as it doesn't tie into any "Favorite Format" definitions...
I can't think of any change recently in Opus that would have affected the ability to edit a "Favorite Format" with Computer specific fields... or which may have previously provided some other way of saving a Computer format definition as a "Favorite Format" that could later be edited. There's no RAW command that lets you save a current view as a favorite format - right? Wish I had hung on to my older 10.0.0.0 installer to test with .
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