DO9: Viewer to act similar to the Viewer in ACDSee?

Hello there :slight_smile:

First of all, thanks for the DOpus 9 Update, it's marvelous again (like expected).

So far I'm still using ACDSee to manage my photo collection. Actually I'm not using a lot of features, but there are a few things in ACDSee's browser that I'm missing in DOpus. Nothing spectacular in the end, but I'm used to it. And now, with the new tile mode, it would be great if I could dump ACDSee and use DOpus for this job.

So let's assume you're in a folder with a few hundred images. You start the viewer by opening the first one, and browse through the images in your folder. Suddenly you find an image that needs to be optimized or reworked. In ACDSee I leave the viewer and the current image is automatically selected in the browser. This way I can directly use the image (e.g open in editor, resize, rotate, enhance, ...). And guess what ? I can do it in DOpus as well.

The only difference, the last viewed image isn't selected. It's still the first one that opened the viewer.

So my question. Did I miss some part in the manual ? Or does anyone know if I could achieve this behavior with some kind of trick ?

Best regards,

Micha :slight_smile:

Right-click the picture in the Viewer Window and a context menu will appear listing many image commands. If you want to mark the file to work on in an external program select Tag File from the context menu. This puts the file display in checkbox mode, selecting the file, it will still be selected when you exit the Viewer Window.

Don't forget that there is also a Viewer Pane, which allows you to scroll through the file in a file display, and see them at the same time.

I should note that when you select Tag File, you may still see the first you clicked on to open the viewer "selected" however, in Checkbox mode, a file must be checked, not selected. So if you had a command button that would operate on selected files, in check box mode it would only operate on checked files.

Hi,

I have been testing Dopus for a while, and the only reasons I can't get rid of my ACDSee and switch completely are as follow:

  • The feature "Close on double-click" does not work on the current (9.0.0.6) version of Dopus.

  • Closing the viewer gets back to Dopus, but the first file is selected, instead of the current file (once one has scrolled through pictures). It would be great to get to the ACDSee's default behavior. Tagging is wonderful, but when I have scrolled through a few 1000's pictures (I'm a photographer), and that dopus brings me back all the way back to the first thumbnail, losing my current selection... I get angry.

  • Faster scrolling through JPEG files. There is a delay which prevents me from viewing a lot of files full-screen as I'm doing in ACDSee. I disabled the 'smoothing' feature buried in the thumbnail options, but it's still quite sluggish. Zooming in and out is also painfully slow, and not centered (unlike all other picture viewers).

Other than that... Well I may just get myself a copy today if all of this is put on a feature request list somewhere.

Dexter

I can't see that feature. Am I missing something or did you mean something else, like single-click to close?

It might be worth sending GPSoft a feature request in case nobody has asked them to do this already.

Are you viewing huge images, or images on a network drive, or just using a slow PC?

I can't see that feature. Am I missing something or did you mean something else, like single-click to close?

My bad, I was referring to the Middle Button assignment. I have mapped my scrollwheel button (middle button?) to double-click in windows. And set Middle button to 'Close Viewer' in Dopus. I expected the mousewheel button to close the window. But instead nothing happens. I guess an extra 'double-click' line in here would be helpful. I like to scroll with left button, close the viewer with middle button or double-click and send files to photoshop with a "shell --> open with..." to option in the right-click menu just like in ACDSee. So far it has been the fastest way to scroll through pics fullscreen, get back and forth between full-screen view and thumbnails view, and send pictures to photoshop or camera raw.

It might be worth sending GPSoft a feature request in case nobody has asked them to do this already.

I was thinking about this. I'll have a look.

Are you viewing huge images, or images on a network drive, or just using a slow PC?

I have tried scrolling through smaller files (800x600) with the same result. I'm using a 3ghz pentium D with 2gb of ram under Vista Ultimate 32 bits. The pictures are located on a local RAID0 array (2x250 GB disks). The same thing happens when I browse on a single local disk. ACDSee has no problem displaying and scrolling through my 1600x1200 pics, no delay whatsoever. But again I may be asking a lot, ACDSee is really optimized to do just this. I'm just hoping the speed can be improved somewhat in future releases.

I found a way! I assigned 'close viewer' to the left click button. It does close the viewer when I double-click or middle-click. I can't scroll through, but that's not a big problem.

So now the last problem remaining is the file selection when after closing the viewer. The delay isn't a huge deal to me. I'll see if I can post a feature request.

One more thing: I attempted to use the 'tag' option to select several files and send them to photoshop (or a folder). But I just can't find the option to do anything once I have tagged one or more files. The way I do it: I double-click on a picture, opens it fullscreen, press control-T, then double-click to get back to dopus. The file is effectively tagged, as the 'checkmarks' column now shows up. What do I do next? I have searched the help and the forums without luck.

Found it. Had to use the File menu instead of the right-clicks.
It'd be nice to be able to right-click in the blank area of the main window to do these file operations in checkbox mode... just a thought.

Thanks for all the help!

You can modify all context menus. The menu you get when clicking in the blank area of a lister can be found in "Settings > Customize > Context Menus". You can even change the context menus for all files or special file types (see "Settings > File Types"). It's all there, you just have to invest a little (!) time. :wink:

Cheers,
Jan

If your middle button (scrollwheel button) is set to double-click the left button then Opus (and any other program) has no idea you're pressing the middle button and thus can't react to it. The mouse drivers will send programs a left double-click rather than a middle mouse button and the programs can't tell the difference between that and a real left double-click.

Opus is certainly not as fast as ACDSee, since ACDSee buffers up the next image while Opus only loads things on-demand. On a local disk with nomal sized JPG/PNG/GIF images, though, they still should load more or less instantly. Scaling, too, is more or less instant unless it's a very large image (or you're zooming in a lot), although it's possible my idea of instant is different to yours. :slight_smile: I definitely don't find the Opus viewer slow (except for very large images) but I haven't used ACDSee for a number of years so maybe it is slow by comparison.

In most cases I believe zooming of images is handled by Windows and the speed it happens will ultimately come down to your graphics card and graphics drivers. (There are some exceptions where Opus scales the image itself rather than asking the OS to do it, e.g. greyscale images.)

Regarding checkbox mode, you can press Shift-Space to select all of the checked files, after which you can right-click them. Not ideal, though...

If you're always sending them to the same program then it would probably be easiest to create a button or hotkey which runs the program. In checkbox mode it should pick up the filenames of the checked files which you can pass to other programs using {f} etc.

[quote="dexterlagan"]- The feature "Close on double-click" does not work on the current (9.0.0.6) version of Dopus.

  • Closing the viewer gets back to Dopus, but the first file is selected, instead of the current file (once one has scrolled through pictures). It would be great to get to the ACDSee's default behavior.[/quote]
    I like these two requests. i'm using asdsee since few years but the last release (7, 8 and 9) are too slow. so now, my default image viewer are DO and i use acdsee only to edit image.

i think it would be great if :

  • double-click left close viewer and select the last picture
  • can choose right button configuration (like left and middle button) and add "show previous picture" options
  • modify highlight selection, can modify dimension by clicking&dropping each highlight sides
  • add option to crop picture in context menu (with square selection option)

with these options, acdsee will be uninstalled of my computer

As far as I know, ACDSee has manually-crafted assembler JPEG decoding routines, so they are one of the fastest there are. It's obviously faster than DO when displaying/browsing images.

DO appears pretty on par with software like XnView or IrfanView- I use DO for browsing images, but leave managing my photo collection (with big JPEGs and RAWs) to ACDSee.

I'm for:

  • double click to close viewer
  • synchronizing current image in lister with image displayed in viewer
  • read-ahead and cache-behind one image

Let's leave cropping & resizing to other programs.

X.

Opus can already resize things, although not directly in the viewer.

I use Opus to crop things all the time. Select part of the image, Ctrl-C it to the clipboard, then close the viewer and Ctrl-V into a lister to create a new file. It's a bit fiddly for doing precise crops, which I still load Photoshop for sometimes, but when I don't need to be pixel perfect it's quick and easy.

Lots of people are asking to sync the lister and viewer but don't forget that the same lister can launch multiple viewers. How would that work? Only sync the first or the last viewer to the lister that launched it?

I would imagine that each viewer window could reposition the file selection to whatever file it was viewing whenever that particular viewer is brought into focus/made active?

I guess that would work, although I'd find it annoying if it meant I accidentally wiped out my file selection by clicking on a viewer I forgot was even connected to a lister.

[quote="nudel"]Opus can already resize things, although not directly in the viewer.

I use Opus to crop things all the time. Select part of the image, Ctrl-C it to the clipboard, then close the viewer and Ctrl-V into a lister to create a new file. It's a bit fiddly for doing precise crops, which I still load Photoshop for sometimes, but when I don't need to be pixel perfect it's quick and easy.

Lots of people are asking to sync the lister and viewer but don't forget that the same lister can launch multiple viewers. How would that work? Only sync the first or the last viewer to the lister that launched it?[/quote]

It seems only fair to have the last viewer sync'ed.
I'm glad to see most people agree with the double-click and file selection. Someday we'll get enough people in congress and pass that law... I mean.. feature request. Lack or read-ahead is probably the reason why it lags a lot when scrolling through pics with the viewer. Cropping and all the rest can be left to dedicated programs - but thanks for the cropping tip! I would have never thought of that one.