with Dopus 9, the File Filter Field used to be "intelligently persistent" in the following case:
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[li]filter a lister with (lots of) folders in order to identify the folder(s) you are looking for[/li]
[li]double-click on one of the (filtered) folders in order to see it's files: the File Filter Field is automatically cleared (great) such that you can see all files in the current folder[/li]
[li]seeing that you didn't open the correct folder[/li]
[li]navigating back: the File Filter Field is automatically re-populated with the previous search/filter term such that the same sub-set of (filtered) folders is shown as before at #1 (great)[/li]
[li]choose and double-click another of the filtered folders to see it's contents[/li]
[li]etc., see #3f. [/li][/ol]
However, in Dopus v.10, this doesn't seem to work anymore. On navigating "back" at #4, the File Filter Field is not automatically re-populated with the previous search/filter term. Instead, the File Filter Field is cleared on every lister navigation (especially on going "Back").
Is there a setting to get back the previous behaviour (which was very useful)?
The behavior of the "quick filter" (used to be called the "view filter" in Opus 9) has not changed in this way. In Opus 9 the view filter was always cleared on every change of folder. What I suspect is causing this discrepancy is that in Opus 9 the File Filter Field defaulted to modifying a different filter.
If you click the drop-down at the left of the File Filter Field you get a number of options. In Opus 10 the default is Quick Filter but in Opus 9 the default was different - I can't remember which exactly but I suspect it was "Files and Folders". These other options have the result of modifying the various folder options filters, not the quick filter. Try changing it to "File and Folders" and see if you get back the behaviour you remember.
Thanks Jon. I have changed the drop-down options of the File Filter Field to "Files and Folders" now accordingly. This (almost) works as desired:
If I enter a sub-folder from a (filtered) folder list, the File Filter Field is still not cleared (no matter what setting the "delete Quick Filter on folder change checkbox" in "settings -> preferences -> file displays -> filter bar" is set to). If however I clear the File Filter Field manually, then of course I see all files and folders in that respective sub-folder.
Then, if I hit "Back" in order to go back to the previous folder (where the view was filtered), then the File Filter Field is re-populated with the previous term -- which is exactly what it should be.
Thus, the only thing remaining to be desired would be when the File Filter Field actually would get cleared on entering a subfolder (at least when the "delete Quick Filter on folder change checkbox" in "settings -> preferences -> file displays -> filter bar" is checked) -- but still the File Filter Field would get re-populated on going "Back" (which makes sense, because going "Back" usually means "go back to the previous location AND view" (not only to the previous location).
Thus, thank you already for considering this proposal,
At least when using the Filter Bar (the File Filter Field is deprecated and we're considering removing it, so we won't be changing how it behaves), the Preferences / File Displays / Filter Bar / Clear Quick filter automatically when changing folders option works as it should: When you change folders (including by going into a subfolder, or by going back to a previous folder), the filter is cleared.
We may have a way coming for people to do something more esoteric than that, if they really want to, although that is still in the ideas phase at the moment so I am not sure if it will or not yet.
Thanks Leo, but then the filter bar should be re-populated when going "back", in order not having to manually re-enter the same filter every time you want to go back to your previous filtered lister.
It could work either way. The way it works now seems more true to what the option says, since going back is still changing folders. I can see cases for it working either of the two ways and don't really think either is definitely right/wrong.
Yes. I'm only saying it is more logical and the principle is used everywhere™, so it should also be used here:
After hitting a "back" button in any software, you are taken back exactly one step to where you were before (to your filtered lister view), not two steps (to the same lister, but un-filtered).
Everywhere™ must be like unlimited* in broadband adverts.
If I ctrl-f in Chrome to find some text, then click a link, then click back, the search field and text highlights are both gone.
So it is not the case that going back always takes you back to exactly what you had before in all software, or even all popular software. And there's an argument that it shouldn't, in this case with Opus, when you have turned on an option which explicitly contradicts that behaviour. (Going back is changing folders.)
Anyway, there's not much point arguing about this as it is clearly reasonable for it to work in either of the two ways. We understand the request and it makes sense. If more people ask for it, and if you link your account, then we'll be more likely to implement it in some way (either as a new option or as a change to the existing option, which could be re-worded to suit the requested behaviour).
Ah! I was just going to lament that this feature is still not available, because I literally have been missing it every day for the last five years (or was it 10 years?) -- only to find that it now seems to work
(At least as long as "Quick Filter" is not enabled)
This is such a major relief for finding things, when you have several folders with similar names in a parent folder with a zillion items, and you have to go back to your filtered list several times after looking into one of those folders, in order to find the folder you're after!
Hi David - you haven't been on the forum for a while, but if you see this can you please advise how this works for you? I see no difference today vs 2016. Thanks
Hi Octopus, I just tested it again, and it still only seems to (kinda) work if "Quick Filter" is disabled, and "Files and Folders" is enabled in the File Filter Field:
Ah I see, so it functions in the way you described in post #4?
It's definitely good to know how this filter option functions so thanks for highlighting. I would still like to have the option to have the filter cleared automatically on opening a folder, but this helps. Cheers
