Flat view: file order in standalone viewer or slideshow

Hello,

when shooting RAW photos, my camera additionally saves the images as JPGs. On my harddisk, I put the JPGs in one folder (vor quick viewing) and the RAW images in a subfolder.

Since now and then a file isn't transferred correctly, I always take a quick look at all images in the standalone viewer. This time I didn't want to do this separately for the two folders, so I used the flat view (mixed, no folders). In the lister, the files are ordered correctly (just 10 images, to make it a little bit shorter):

P1040932.JPG P1040932.RAW P1040933.JPG P1040933.RAW P1040934.JPG P1040934.RAW P1040935.JPG P1040935.RAW P1040936.JPG P1040936.RAW P1040937.JPG P1040937.RAW P1040938.JPG P1040938.RAW P1040941.JPG P1040941.RAW P1040942.JPG P1040942.RAW P1040944.JPG P1040944.RAW
When I select these files and call the standalone viewer or the slideshow, I get this order:

P1040932.RAW P1040941.RAW P1040933.RAW P1040938.RAW P1040934.RAW P1040937.RAW P1040935.RAW P1040944.RAW P1040936.RAW P1040942.RAW P1040935.JPG P1040938.JPG P1040934.JPG P1040941.JPG P1040933.JPG P1040937.JPG P1040942.JPG P1040936.JPG P1040944.JPG P1040932.JPG
which seems to be a quite random order (apart from the fact that JPG and RAW files are separated). :wink:

When no file is selected, the slideshow displays the files in the correct order again.

Is it possible to correct this for selected files? Or am I just doing something wrongly?

Thanks in advance! :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Jan

Do you have Preferences / Viewer / Slideshow / Randomize slideshow on? :slight_smile:

I guess not if the order isn't random when no file is selected, but for me (with the option off) it isn't random in either case.

For me, with a file selected, the slideshow just does the files that are in the same folder (so only half the files) and in the same order they're listed in the file display. (Except that it always starts with the selected file.)

Without anything selected, it does all the files in the order they're shown in the file display. (i.e. The order you want.) Same if I double-click a file to open it in the viewer and then mousewheel or spacebar through the images. (Except that it always starts on the file I double-clicked.)

I tested with GIF and PNG files, not raw and JPG so I guess there might be some difference in how the file extensions are treated. Here's my test images -- numbers 1 to 10 in the images -- if you want to try them. (Set the viewer background to something other than white and it'll be easy to tell the GIF from the PNG images, since the PNGs are numbers on a transparent background.)

number_images.zip (57.5 KB)

BTW, if you only want to test for complete failure to transfer the files, you could just switch to thumbnails mode. That works with flat-view.

If you want to check for only partial corruption, make sure you've got the Raw plugin set to do a full (slow!) decode, otherwise you're just viewing the embedded thumbnails in the raw files and the main data could still be corrupt.

Thank you very much for your quick reply! :slight_smile:

[quote="leo"]Do you have Preferences / Viewer / Slideshow / Randomize slideshow on? :slight_smile:

I guess not[/quote]
Your guess is correct - "Randomize slideshow" is turned off. :wink:

Hm, is this the way it should work? I'd expect a "real" flat view that doesn't behave in different ways depending on which files are selected...

That's what I stated, too. Everything works fine as long as any files are selected. Double-clicking on a file works as expected, too.

Thank you very much for this. :thumbsup:

Being in the folder that contains the PNG images and the folder /gif, I switch to flat view (mixed, no folders), select all files with +A and start the standalone viewer. This is the order I get:

10.gif 2.gif 1.gif 9.gif 3.gif 8.gif 4.gif 7.gif 5.gif 6.gif 6.png 4.png 7.png 3.png 8.png 2.png 5.png 9.png 1.png 10.png
:unamused: BTW: This is the same order I get when copying the file names (Clipboard COPYNAMES=nopaths).

I'm using DOpus 10.0.0.6. Is there anything else that I could have mixed up in the preferences? :confused:

[quote="leo"]BTW, if you only want to test for complete failure to transfer the files, you could just switch to thumbnails mode. That works with flat-view.

If you want to check for only partial corruption, make sure you've got the Raw plugin set to do a full (slow!) decode, otherwise you're just viewing the embedded thumbnails in the raw files and the main data could still be corrupt.[/quote]
Thanks, but that's what I'm doing. The thumbnails image mode is "Fast preview if available, else full decode" while the viewers image mode is "Full decode".

Cheers,
Jan

If I do select-all first then I also get the files in a strange (but consistent each time) order. Not sure if there is a reason for that. I'll make a note to take a look at it.

You could change the Slideshow button to run Select NONE first to avoid having to manually deslect first, if that helps.

No, that wouldn't help - often I just want to look at only some of the pictures, not all of them, and then this problem also occurs. :wink:

It would be nice if this could be fixed.

Thank you very much for your help!

Cheers,
Jan