"grouped by file type" in a Lister: folders first possible?

Hi forum,

with the new grouped view, is it possible to have folders at the top, and files below folders? At present, it seems that files always come first, then folders, which is the opposite as before (and the opposite of most any file manager's display order).

Is there an option setting regarding the order of folders vs. files in grouped view?

Thanks already
David.P

In your folder settings you have that option (-> tools -> folder options -> display (tab) -> sorting options) below the "ignore prefix" option.

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Thanks -- but there is no "ignore prefix" option in my version of Dopus (10.0.0.0.4137.x86)!


That seems to be some translation issue. The latest Beta at least shows "Präfix ignorieren".

....not in my case:

(this is now Beta 10.0.0.2.4151.x86) :question: :cry:

The option is called Prafix in your screenshot, and in one of the screenshots above you had expanded the drop-down Abr is talking about, directly below it.

Yes, but that doesn't work (in grouped view):

Folders are below although that setting says "list folders before files".

PS: .... and what is the effect of "Präfix" here? What can I insert in the box, and what does it do?

Folders come before files within each group. It doesn't create a second copy of each group so the folders and files have their own separate groups.

Pardon -- I don't get it, sorry...?

There are no folders in any group (except in the folders group)

So is there no way to have the folders group at the top?

Try grouping by something other than filetype to see what I mean.

OK I see.

...when grouping by file type?

If you want, when grouped by type, the group of folders to come before any of the groups of files, there's no way to do that (short of changing the folder file type name to AAAA or something).

Thanks for the information.

By the way, prefixes cause the given key word to be listed on top of your file list, at least in normal modes like details, power etc.
So, for example, if you are on your system drive & put "program files" into the prefix field, it will be the top item, regardless of
it´s alphabetical position.

The Ignore Prefix field (the label seems to have been clipped in the German resource for some reason - maybe because you are using high DPI mode) is used to tell Opus to ignore prefix strings when sorting files. So for example, you can have "The Lord of the Rings" sorted as if it was just "Lord of the Rings", by specifying "The" as a prefix to ignore when sorting.

It doesn't have anything to do with groups, and it doesn't specifically make things sort at the top.

If you would like an option to put the Folders group at the top, feel free to file an official request.

Interesting, i didn´t knew that, but now you say it, it makes sense. However, i used it that way to get things at top of lists. Works here, anyway. :sunglasses:

I found out, that is has to be "the " (including a "space") in order to work that way. Interesting new usage for the prefix.

Thanks Jon. Actually I think it is necessary to have the Folders group at the top. Otherwise, you end up having to first scroll down to the folders group every time you click your way down into a deep path (with lots of files inside every folder displacing the folders group out of the visible part of the window).

Like for example in the folder depicted below. In order to open one of its subfolders, I have to scroll all the way down to the end of the lister where the folders group is. This makes no sense -- and most probably is the very reason that every file manager lists folders first, then files.

Thus, I shall file an official request linking to this thread.

Thanks
David

cough