No SHIFT DEL in Find window?

Hi,

after years I have finally get used to using SHIFT + DEL to delete files without putting them into the trashcan.

Sadly this does not work when selecting files inside of a find window.

Is this intentional?

cheers
Bodo

I can confirm that. It also might depend on your settings in the preferences, you can check them under [b][color=green]-> file operations -> deleting files.

Another possibility is to output your searched files into a collection, where deleting without trashcan does work.

In addition to what Abr said, I'd recommend the Find Panel (Tools -> Find Panel) instead of the Find Window.

thanks to abr and leo.

Wouldn't it be logical to have this functionality in the Find Window or is this function orphaned because of the find panel?

IMO the old Find Window should just be removed, or at least not included in the default menus. The newer Find Panel works much better but a lot of people don't realise it exists because it's in a later menu (I guess).

the reason why I am using it is quite simply and surely valid for many other people:

I am just pressing CTRL-F to find something.

Change the hotkey to open the panel instead of the find window then.

When I use this code for CTRL-F:

Set UTILITY=Find,toggle

the toggle doesn't work (but it works when I use the same code for a toolbar button) ...

[quote="Bodo"]the reason why I am using it is quite simply and surely valid for many other people:

I am just pressing CTRL-F to find something.[/quote]

As part of removing the old Find Window that hotkey would be changed, as would the File menu, of course. :slight_smile:

The main reason I'm not using the Find Panel is there is no hotkey to close it. I never bothered to speak about it here, but the problem is you can assign hotkeys to open this panel, but in most cases the same hotkey won't shut when finished.
Any ideas?

Yes, I also noticed this (see my reply above). The code Set UTILITY=Find,toggle only works with buttons, not with Hotkeys. This is strange, because for example Set VIEWPANE=Toggle does work with hotkeys.

That's because the viewer pane doesn't usually take the focus.

For now, for the Find panel, I guess you could make the hotkey system global, but of course then you have to choose a hotkey which you don't want to type in any other program.

Yes, the toggle works with a system wide hotkey. Didn't know that, thanks! :slight_smile:

Btw SHIFT+DEL doesn't seem to work on "my desktop" location. But I guess it is because it is a special directoy, right ?

I tried to replace "Find" in the context menu for all folders (or maybe assign a new task near it: Set UTILITY=Find,toggle), but it doesn't take the selected folder into account when opening the Find panel.

When I added some {path argument$}, then the Find panel wouldn't show at all.

Do you have any ideas how to make it work as a context menu as well?

Try putting your command (Set UTILITY=Find,toggle) into the lister context menu instead, it should work fine there. You just need to right click in an empty area of the lister to see that context menu.

Thanks, but the point was to not enter the folder I'm willing to search into. This is how the Find context menu works.

I don't quite follow you. If you have say C:\Test\ in your source lister and C:\Test\Subfolder\ is selected, the find panel should open in C:\Test\ which would allow you to search C:\Test\Subfolder\ (along with any other subfolder of C:\Test). If you only want some specific subfolders searched, you choose those from within the Find Panel dialog.

Of course you can refine your folder after opening the panel / window, but I would like to reproduce exactly what the Find command does.

So, to follow your example, I am in C:\Test, I right click on Subfolder, choose Find and then the Find window opens with C:\Test\Subfolder preloaded and only searches in that folder.

Likewise, the Find panel should open with the same subfolder selected, no more choosing needed.

Also, hopefully the context menu would also work for the tree panel.

It's not perfect but you could make a button which enters the selected folder and then turns the find panel on:

Go FROMSEL Set UTILITY=Find,On

It's worth noting that you can use the standalone Find window and still have it output the results to "Lister (Collection)" so that you them in a normal file display with full functionality.