Upgrading to v10

I'm a dopus 9 user at the moment but intend to upgrade to 10 soon. If I run the 10 installer without first removing V9 will it keep all my customization that I've made such as buttons, toolbars, collies, shortcut keys etc?

A clean install seems to be more recommendable. But you can backup your settings & should be able to import them back to your new version.
But some of your settings might not function anymore, due to the changes, so you have to modify stuff or make new commands.

Installing over the top is fine, you won't lose any of your config.

(You'll get a new set of toolbars, but your old ones will be preserved automatically)

I installed over 9 but when 10 started, it wasn't using my config anymore ..... I had to restore from a backup config

Are you sure it hadn't just switched to the new default toolbars?

Your old toolbars would still have been there, just turned off, and the rest of the config should've been preserved.

Doing a config backup before updating is always a good plan anyway, just in case you need to go back to the version you were on for some reason. But it's only needed just-in-case; Opus 10 should update an existing Opus 9 config without problem (and we've tested that quite a lot).

OK thanks. Just purchased dopus 10 and downloading now. Sounds like an update should work ok but as suggested i'll run an export first.

[quote="jon"]Installing over the top is fine, you won't lose any of your config.

(You'll get a new set of toolbars, but your old ones will be preserved automatically)[/quote]

Just to let you know. I upgraded from 9 to 10 and installed on top of 9. None of my customizing stayed. I just had to do a restore and everything came back. The look I got after upgrading matched your screenshots from the homepage.

I still had the old 9 icon so I decided to completely remove 9, rebooted, installed 10 and let it do it's default configuration (looked like the default 9 and not the screenshots from homepage for 10). Then restored from backup and I"m 100% back to the way 9 looked and ran (besides the new icons).

I'm loving 10 so far! Well worth the upgrade price for me

That´s what Leo meant:

You should be able to change to your look by reactivating your personal toolbars.

As I said you get a new set of toolbars. Your old ones were renamed and still available, as per the popup message you presumably clicked on without reading :slight_smile:

Glad you're enjoying version 10!

[quote="jon"]As I said you get a new set of toolbars. Your old ones were renamed and still available, as per the popup message you presumably clicked on without reading :slight_smile:

Glad you're enjoying version 10![/quote]

lol. I read it, I just don't know what I'm doing :wink:

If you still see the Opus 9 icon on your desktop, start menu or taskbar, it's because the Windows shell icon cache is, well, rubbish. :slight_smile:

You can usually force Windows to notice the icon it's cached has changed by removing it and re-creating it. e.g. For a program pinned to the taskbar, unpin it, then re-pin it. For an icon on the desktop, delete the shortcut, then re-create it.

A more drastic measure is deleting the shell icon cache, but I haven't had to do that for this particular problem so far. (Some other problems have required it, though. I once had all my taskbar icons go blank for some reason, for example.)

The Windows shell has done a terrible job of caching icons for as long as I can remember so I don't hold out hope for it ever being fixed. :slight_smile:

For pre Vista versions there is the good old TweakUI tool, which also is capable of an "icon repair".

Same here.

Some things stuck, others didn't.

My set of listers was fine, but it made a complete mess of my toolbars.

What popup message?

Why was it necessary to pension off old toolbars?

Not the usual way of informing people about such changes.

It's to encourage people to at least look at the new toolbars and what's in them (a lot of functionality that was either hidden before or didn't exist at all), and because it's not easy to know how much someone has customized their toolbars (i.e. whether they want the new defaults or are attached to their old toolbars), and because we assume that if someone has customized a lot then they won't have a problem turning their old toolbars back on again.

There should have been a message the first time you ran Opus 10 telling you the old toolbars were still there and could be turned back on again. It happens whenever an Opus 9 config is updated to Opus 10. I'm guessing many will just click OK without reading it, eager to try the new version rather than read things.

I agree it's not normal; most programs don't let you configure their toolbars at all, and many of those that do throw away your changes between major versions. :slight_smile:

In the install dialog presumably?

They aren´t. Just turn them back on again. Btw, it happened to me too, when the new default toolbars were introduced. :laughing:
Lucky enough i make periodic backups.

I overlooked it in the installer too, because i´m used to quickly click through it.

Scratch the part about the message. You guys are absolutely right, it isn't being displayed.

It only gets displayed if the new toolbars have the same names as old toolbars, forcing the old ones to be renamed.

Since the new toolbars in Opus 10 have different names to the Opus 9 ones, the message isn't being triggered. We should fix that.

But the old toolbars are definitely still there; you just need to turn them back on. (I just double-checked by doing a 9->10 update.)

Well I did the upgrade in the end. I didn't get the popup as explained by Leo below and my toolbars weren't there by default. It wasn't a problem though because it only took a second to turn them back on, all in all a pretty painless exercise.

I think it's a good idea to expose the default ui by default because it brings to the front some of the new features that may get overlooked. Also it only a second to turn your toolbars back on.

I appreciate being forced to look at new features. It just comes at a bit of a shock when you weren't expecting it.

In the event, the kerfuffle with the toolbars forced me to go tidy things up and generally do things a bit more rationally. (It also forced me to remember how to do things that I had forgotten.)

I like the drop down arrows in menu items.