VIEW=details gives me details+thumbnails

Hello. I am on Opus 12.6 x64 on Windows 7. I use Keyboard Express to create and run keyboard macros. I have a keyboard macro that creates a window with 3 tabs. It works fine. It uses View mode of List. Now I am trying to modify the first tab created to use View mode of Details. What it displays is Details+Thumbnails. I have unable to solve this. Please help.

For the first tab, the macro sends to Opus the following:
GO "C:\Users\Carl\Favorites\Favorites Bar\Bookmark" NEW=0,100,300,950,notree VIEW=details

Details+Thumbnails isn't strictly a separate display mode, it is just Details mode with the Thumbnails column included in the list of displayed columns.

You probably have the Thumbnails column turned on for whichever folder format is being used when you open a new lister for that folder.

Hover the mouse over the format lock icon on the status bar and it will tell you where the current folder format comes from. That will be the thing you need to remove the Thumbnails column from.

FAQ_O12_FolderFormats_Lock

FAQ_O10_FolderFormats_LockTip

Thanks for the quick and clear response.
However, when I hover over the format lock icon, it says:

The current Folder Format comes from:
Edited by user

Run the command without the VIEW=Details part and see what it says then. I think that's what is counting as the format being edited.

I did as you suggested. Result:
The current Folder Format comes from:
Default Format

When I look at Settings > Preferences > Folders > Folder Formats > Default Format > [edit] User Default
the only "Displayed fields" checked is Filename.
I have looked at every other one of the checked Folder Formats, and they all have the only "Displayed fields" checked is Filename.

So I still do not know why am getting thumbnails displayed

Can you post a screenshot showing the thumbnails you mean, just so we know we're talking about the same thing?

That looks like it has a lot more than just the Name column, judging by the scrollbar at the bottom of the window. So it's not just the Thumbnails column being unexpected but several others, if the Default Format only has Name.

Are those the same columns you get when you open a new window normally, without the special command?

No, just the name. The scrollbar exists because there are more files that can be displayed, as the attachment shows.

Apologies. Previous post was wrong.
You are correct - there are other columns, as the attachment shows. But aren't these the proper Details colmns?

When you hovered over the format lock, was it with that folder (the one with unwanted columns) was active? That's the one we are interested in.

Did the message that appears say anything other than Default Format? e.g. Content Type formats can add additional columns if they match as well.

When I hover over the format lock with the unwanted columns, it says:
Edited by user
That is all it says.

Which folder tab was active when you did that?

The Bookmarks tab Format Icon lock says:
Edited by User.
The other two tabs say:
Default Format.
When the macro invokes Opus and creates this lister, it is only for the first tab created, the Bookmarks tab, that I include the parameter VIEW=details. For the other two tabs, there is not VIEW parameter.

I just realised we've only seen the first line of your macro.

Please show us the whole thing.

Also, check which columns you see if you just run Go NEW on its own.

The complete macro that is run by Keyboard Express is:
<LAUNCH PROGRAM AND ACTIVATE WINDOW Title="Opus" Exact_Match="FALSE" Wildcards="FALSE" Path="C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/cmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Favorites\Favorites Bar\Bookmarks" NEW=0,100,300,950,notree VIEW=details" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="0" Wait_For_Program="2"/>



<PROGRAM LAUNCH Path="C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/acmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Shortcuts" NEWTAB=nofocus" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="1" Get_Console="FALSE"/>

<PROGRAM LAUNCH Path="C:\Program Files\GPSoftware\Directory Opus\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/acmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Manuals" NEWTAB=nofocus" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="1" Get_Console="FALSE"/>

The parts just relevant to Opus are:
dopusrt.exe /cmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Favorites\Favorites Bar\Bookmark" NEW=0,100,300,950,notree VIEW=details
dopusrt.exe /acmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Shortcuts"
dopusrt.exe /acmd GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Manuals"

When I run GO NEW on its own, I get the exact same default lister that I get when I double click on empty space on the desktop.

Correction:
The complete macro that Keyboard Express runs is:

<LAUNCH PROGRAM AND ACTIVATE WINDOW Title="Opus" Exact_Match="FALSE" Wildcards="FALSE" Path="C:\\Program Files\\GPSoftware\\Directory Opus\\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/cmd GO \"C:\\Users\\Carl\\Favorites\\Favorites Bar\\Bookmarks\" NEW=0,100,300,950,notree VIEW=details" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="0" Wait_For_Program="2"/>
<DELAY Flags="\x02" Time="100"/>
<WINDOW ACTIVATE Title="Bookmarks" Exact_Match="TRUE" Wildcards="FALSE"/>
<DELAY Flags="\x02" Time="100"/>
<PROGRAM LAUNCH Path="C:\\Program Files\\GPSoftware\\Directory Opus\\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/acmd GO \"C:\\Users\\Carl\\Desktop\\Shortcuts\" NEWTAB=nofocus" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="1" Get_Console="FALSE"/>
<DELAY Flags="\x02" Time="100"/>
<PROGRAM LAUNCH Path="C:\\Program Files\\GPSoftware\\Directory Opus\\dopusrt.exe" Mode="\x00" Parameters="/acmd GO \"C:\\Users\\Carl\\Desktop\\Manuals\" NEWTAB=nofocus" Default_Path="TRUE" Wait="1" Get_Console="FALSE"/>

Please try removing Keyboard Express from the equation to simplify things. You can create system-wide hotkeys in Opus without using another program or having to run things via dopusrt.exe

(Multi-line commands run one-line-at-a-time via dopusrt.exe will not be reliable in general. If you need to trigger one from outside of Opus, it's best to create a user or script command and then trigger that via a single use of dopusrt.exe. But if you just want a hotkey, you can do all of that in Opus, without using dopusrt.exe at all.)

Go to Settings > Customize Toolbars > Keys, then add a new System Wide Hotkey, and set the command to this:

GO "C:\Users\Carl\Favorites\Favorites Bar\Bookmark" NEW=0,100,300,950,notree VIEW=details
[
GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Shortcuts" NEWTAB=nofocus
GO "C:\Users\Carl\Desktop\Manuals" NEWTAB=nofocus
]

That also ensures that the 2nd and 3rd tabs are opened properly.

Note that you could also use a Layout to do all of this in an easier way, by setting up a window, saving it as a layout, and then using this command to open the layout when you want it:

Prefs LAYOUT="My Layout"

Interesting approach. Makes sense.
I did as you suggested, creating a global hotkey with the embedded commands.
And it produced exactly the same result as when I used Keyboard Express: ie, the first tab format was details and thumbnails!!!
So we are still unsolved. :frowning: