Viewer Pane toggle puts selected file out of view

This is driving me crazy. When I'm in Image style, I select an image file (which is in view on the screen, of course), then I turn on the Viewer Pane. When I then turn OFF the Viewer pane, the file display jumps to some random point in the thumbnails, most often to the very end of the thumbnail list, but it is always now NOT showing the selected file on screen. I have to scroll all over the place to find the selected file again. What's going on? How can I fix this random jump-around behavior?

I just tested it, with thumbnails, but the selected item remains untouched after toggling back. Make sure, that
you move your mouse cursor out of the lister area, when toggling.

Just tried that (making sure mouse is not in viewer pane). Problem persists. Also, I tried it with flat mode on and off, just to see if that made a difference. Problem persists. I also tried it with Folder Tree on and off; makes no difference. Note that I said "Image style", not thumbnail view. They're similar, but different (at least here: Image style turns off the folder tree). Nevertheless, I also tried it in Thumbnail view rather than Image style. Problem persists. Aaarrrggghhh. Any other suggestions? I'm at wit's end.

... a bit more info:

When in Explorer style, the problem never happens.

How I close the viewer pane makes no difference: clicking its X, toggling it off via hotkey keystroke or toggling it off via the menu atop the screen. Problem persists.

... and just a point of clarification:

The selection itself does not change. It's just that the selected file ends up scrolled out of view when I close the viewer pane, even though it was IN view when I opened the viewer pane. I have to then scroll all over the place and do an eyeball search to find it again.

Here's a thought: in the commands, is there a "jump to selected" command? Or "put selected file in view", or the like? (I've looked in the reference, under "Go" and "View" and found nothing like that.)

... I just noticed you said "move your mouse cursor out of the lister area" and I responded re moving it out of the viewer pane. Still, I tried putting the mouse cursor in many different places; makes no difference, problem persists. Yikes. I'm cursed.

Sorry, i have no idea, what might cause the problem. Could be a bug?

abr, thanks for trying

For what it's worth, It happens for me too :slight_smile:

I never used the default Styles before but I brought out the old toolbar for testing. For me, it does turn on the tree view (doesn't really matter except it uses uses up more screen real estate). When turning off the viewer, the file display gets wider so the selected file moves up, out of view and scrolling is needed to find the file again. It's the same thing if you have a selected file, and make the viewer pain wider(the file list gets smaller), the selected file will go out of view.

Not really sure that could be considered a bug or not. It would be nice if the selected file stayed in view of course.

Thanks, ktbcrash

Yeah, I'd call it a bug. After turning off the viewer pane, what could possibly be a rationale for the screen view of the files to be anything different than exactly what they were before you turned it on? (Assuming you didn't scroll anything yourself, or course.) I mean, I know there's a technical explanation, of course, an algorithmic programming explanation for why it ends up different, but I mean an explanation related to usability. From a usability standpoint, it's just random behavior.

(I also don't like the way the view -- as in flat mode, mixed (files only) view, mixed (files and folders) view, and grouped view, etc -- always changes back to flat view when I switch between Explorer style and Images style. Maybe the notion of "style" contains more than one parameter, more than one element? Anyway, that's best left for a different thread, I guess.)

Thanks to anyone who's paying attention to this thread!

-- Steve

Turning off the viewer changes the width of the file display, which changes how many columns there are in thumbnails mode, which inherently re-organises the thumbnails. Maybe we can improve on where Opus decides to scroll the view to when that happens, though. (If you link your account then we will be more likely to look into it.)

As for styles changing flat-view mode (if at all), it is something you can configure for the individual styles, via Preferences.

Leo, thanks for the info. Yes, that's the algorithmic explanation, the programming reason. I understood it would be something like that. I'm just looking for something that when I turn off the viewer the lister would return the file display to the way it was before I turned on the viewer, so that the file I was looking at in the viewer stays on the screen. Maybe an option that stores the arrangement of files on screen when turning on the viewer and then restores that arrangement when the viewer is turned off? Or a "put selected file in on-screen view" command that we could create a button for?

I'm not sure what you mean by "link my account". Oops, wait, I just saw the thingie in the pink bar up above. Okay, I'll do that. Thanks again.

-- Steve

Done. Account linked. Thanks for that tip, Leo.

Thanks for linking!

We've got an improvement to how this works coming in the next beta update.

Thanks for everything, Leo. I look forward to it. :slight_smile: