What Has Happened to DOpus Sounds?

After a clean install of DOpus v 9.5.4.0 I went to activate the DOpus sounds and find there are no longer any DOpus Sounds even though the Open Box opened in C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\GPSoftware\Directory Opus where they should be. Have even done a search for them to no effect. Are they now on separate download?

I don't think they're included in the archive anymore.

( I'm surprised anyone wanted that random collection of crappy wav files straight out of the Windows 3.11 era. :slight_smile: )

Here they are though:

Sounds.zip (424 KB)

Thanks Leo. I actually only wanted one of the sounds, but, was surprised by them being no longer there.

Now to try to figure how to stop wav files continuously looping in Viewer Pane which I have never encountered before :slight_smile:

Being a new DOpus user, I'm starting with things that are easy to customize. Decided to try sounds, but ran into some of the same issues as Canopus:

ol No sounds or default sound profile included. Not important? Easy to define your own right? Well, some people think of Opus as a kind of Lexus or BMW of file managers. Picking up your new quality car with no washer fluid is a rough analogy. Sure you can get fluid anywhere for almost nothing, but the feeling of small "polishes" has a larger value. Even just a modern startup and shutdown sound would go a long way. Even if a majority of users never use sound, then simply keep sounds off by default as you currently do, but have a small treat waiting for those who do want it. How does that sound? :wink:
(2) When using the built in viewer to sample sounds, many sounds don't play at all, but play just fine if you open them in WMP. Sounds files that do play in the viewer keep looping until you stop them--even though I do not currently have WMP set to repeat mode. These are just standard wav files from Windows\Media folder.
(3) When I enabled sound events and selected notify.wav for the shutdown event, the preview doesn't play the sound and no sound plays when I shut down Opus. (No, mute is not on and there's no problem with my sound system because these sounds, music etc. play fine in WMP or other players.)[/ol]

Sound is a minor feature for me, and I''m sure you have bigger issues to deal with. I'll just play with something else until you have time to look into it. Thanks.

  1. This has actually already been addressed for a future version. Opus will pick up default sounds based on the current Windows sound theme. (Sounds will still be off by default, but you can just turn them on with one click and get a bunch of sensible defaults.)

2 & 3 are possibly due to different 32-bit vs 64-bit audio codecs, although it's difficult to say without more information. Are you talking about the viewer panel which also displays images etc.? If so, which plugin is picking up the files?

Leo, thanks for the quick response. I didn't even realize you had replied already. I just found and turned on "Notify me upon replies by default".

  1. Nice.

  2. Yes, I'm talking about the Opus integrated viewer panel. It appears that Windows Media Player 12 is being used as the viewer for these WAV files, although under PlugIns Viewers I don't see any handler specifically for WAV files. So, these WAV files all play normally in standalone WMP 12, but either loop continuously or don't play at all when WMP 12 is running as an integrated viewer in Opus.

  1. That'll be via the ActiveX plugin. You could remove them from its config to stop WMP playing them, although then nothing would play them I expect.

Opus has its own sound player but it's invoked (if enabled) by double-clicking .wav files, not through the viewer panel.

OK, I found the ActiveX plugin and now see the .wav entry under 32-bit. Also found the settings button shortcut at the bottom of the viewer pane. Learning more each day... I tried moving .wav to 64-bit, but it made no difference. Maybe it's a problem with the way parameters are passed to WMP 12? Hope it can fixed at some point (after more important projects are finished). Would be nicer to sample multiple WAV files with an integrated viewer/player.

BTW, I also figured out why my Opus shutdown sound wasn't playing. I was only closing the lister, not actually exiting Opus! Lister sound events are working fine now.

If you've on Windows 7 you could try the Windows Media Player Preview Handler (in the top section of the plugin's config). That may play the files that the Windows Media Player ActiveX Control failed to for whatever reason.

If neither work then I'm not sure what could be done differently in Opus to fix it. It'd seem like a Windows Media Player issue (and/or audio codecs etc.) since Opus just tells WMP what to play.

You could try putting one of the problematic files in an attachment and see if others can reproduce the problem or spot anything unusual about the files that might explain things; I'll give it a try if you do.

Someone could write an Opus plugin (or generic Preview Handler) to preview wav files in a better way, I guess.

I looked for "Windows Media Player Preview Handler (in the top section of the plugin's config)", but the only thing I see there is a check-box labeled "Open Temporary Copies". Don't know what that means, but interestingly after checking it the ActiveX control now plays all WAV files! The continuous looping is still there, but at least it plays the sound for all, not just a few.

These are just standard WAV files that come with Windows. They all played fine in standalone WMP even before the above change, so the WAV files themselves seem OK. I don't think this is unique to my system. I'd be interested to know if others using Opus 9.5.5.0.3889.x64 on Win 7 x64 don't get the same behavior.

I mean look in the list (on the left), under the Preview Handlers section (not the ActiveX section), for an item called Windows Media Player. It should be off by default; turning it on will give an alternative wav player. (IMO not a very good one as you have to click play to hear each file, but it may have worked better.)

If turning on Open Temporary Files for the Generic ActiveX line made things work then there may be a bug in how Windows Media Player's ActiveX control opens the files. All that option does is make the plugin copy the file to the temp dir before telling the 3rd party component (in this case, the Windows Media Player ActiveX control) to open them.

Wow, response time here can be faster than instant chat with some vendors!

Now that I understand you correctly, I did try the Windows Media Player preview handler and I agree it's not as good. Even with continuous looping, I prefer auto-play over manual. Also, for some reason WMP handler required volume to be much higher than normal to hear the sounds and it's internal volume control would not stick when set to max.

I'm okay with the ActiveX handler for now. Thanks for being so responsive on an issue that is probably caused by Microsoft not DOpus.