After moving out of the selection of that folder, and having to turn off the metadata pane 'auto apply', I got the pop up again, and aborted, but the image of the ratings stars remains, despite aborting adding them. Also note the little green icon indicating Google Drive sync.
Then after telling me the changes were discarded, but the image was present, the folder also was registered in the 'ratings' column as having a rating. I couldn't get rid of this rating until I quit Google Drive, then the problem disappeared.
Re Google Drive and metadata, those are likely shortcomings of Google Drive, which has a very incomplete (and buggy) filesystem implementation. Cloud storage in general also will not sync NTFS ADS metadata, so applying ratings to files/folders under cloud storage will only affect the local copies, at best (except for formats where the ratings can be added inside the files, e.g. JPG has a way to store ratings so it's stored in the file instead of next to the file as NTFS ADS metadata).
Looking at what I back up to Google Drive, and it's all documents and pictures.
So I can keep this cloud flaw in mind with how I use Opus. Music is what I would want metadata to sync, but I don't back that up to the cloud anyway. For documents and pictures I can just use the Opus metadata editing for the lister columns for easy sorting and personal notes.
The Google Drive app has a 'pause syncing' option. This makes the locked issue disappear, and keeps the G drive mounted. But I don't see a hotkey to toggle that, so that's a problem. They probably don't want people using the pause sync often.
I wonder if I could somehow force Drive sync pause when using Opus, or in certain folders or something. Or create a new button that has a script that toggles numbing sync. When Drive resumes syncing it shadows me (syncs); everything I changed in those folders, so I won't lose any work, no matter how long it was un-synced for.
Or maybe I'll just try your 'temp file' solution for this issue too. Forgot to even try that.
Yes. By the time I snip a pic and attach it to a post, it's already been synced. It gives you status icons that update in real time. Here's an example of happily synced files (green checkmark) and one that is in the process of syncing. I was quick enough to capture it this time.
I think their strategy is because of Google Photos, and that so many people take selfies etc. In this tiktok era, using filters on their phones to modify pics. So Google's file transfer setup (may be) optimized for media, which has larger files sizes, which take longer to send/receive. Google needs to keep their reputation with Chrome being the fastest browser in the land. Which was their whole marketing scheme to take market share away from Microsoft. So they probably take every little shortcut and trick to make sure it's as fast as possible. If that includes screwing other companies, all is fair in love and brostep.
I thought about the preview viewer (create temp file for modifying) solution.
I did a test, putting a rich text document into one of my synced folders and renamed it, while Drive was running. Surprisingly it worked. I guess Opus gets access to the temp file before Drive tries to sync that one too. I'm thinking I may setup all my files that are synced to make temp files (I've since lost our previous conversation though, and how to do it).
The issue with the Drive icons superimposed on synced folders/files, is they disappear when you eject the drive (quit) or pause it. So I thought to make path level colours and created an icon as a permanent reminder helper. Might do green backgrounds within synced folders too, but that might be too much. The Drive icon might be enough.
Then I renamed a pdf that is in a synced folder. I didn't get an error pop up. It did rename without issue.
Oddly the little Drive icon went from synced to the blue syncing icon. (Opus isn't supposed to watch that when the option is disabled). But it didn't go back to the green checkmark. I had to refresh the folder and it did go back (Which is what it's supposed to do with the option disabled).
I tried it again with the option enabled. Same behavior. I didn't get an error pop up, and it showed the blue syncing, but didn't change back to synced when it was done. So it looks like this option isn't doing anything.
Not sure why pdf's aren't causing me the 'used by another program' issue here, or it's possible that my original issue wasn't a permanent problem.
For the used by another process, it was the preview window again. I might just use the 'temp file on edit' for all files that can be previewed.
For the privilege error, I followed a tutorial. My C drive properties "share" permissions was read only. I changed it to full access. Not sure yet if that's going to fix it and/or make me vulnerable to remote assistance access attacks or not.
Which other programs even let you do all the same actions?
You only see these problems with Google Drive, correct? Opus works OK in other folders. So by that same logic, Google Drive is where the fault is. (Which would not be the first time. Google Drive File Stream is a very nonstandard filesystem with a lot of issues, in our experience since it was released.)
Sorry, I don't mean to be so much of a handful.
I did mention that it is happening with my pictures too, which are not synced with Google Drive.
The behavior is different, according to if the preview pane is opened or closed, and if I use the metadata pane, or use Ctrl + M to edit metadata.
I have been working on this problem myself full time, and have made changes, and am still working on it. Recently I wasn't able to add a favorite folder to Listary, because it was open in Opus.
I remember now when going to Drive on the web recently it's been giving me this new popup notification that there are new 'offline' settings. I just kept dismissing them because it's annoying. No idea how that would benefit me. So I just disabled it now.
Have been checking around Opus to see, and I'm now able to make changes to all my synced files and also the not synced files. Things that I wasn't able to do previously, without permission errors. And now when I 'refresh' the lister those little Drive sync icons refresh to their correct state.
A bit of info I just realized, you might want to know.
In some of the folders that sync with Google Drive, there are hidden 'temp' folders.
I'm not seeing these temp folders in every parent folder that are synced.
So Google Drive might do that same method you referenced earlier; making temp copies of something when it uploads or downloads to and from my hard disk. I don't know how this new 'offline' setting affected this.