Hello,
i want to buy DO8 but only when the programm ist fully compatible with Windows Vista. Can you give me a date then the new vista-compatible version will come out? Tank you!
Tobi
Hello,
i want to buy DO8 but only when the programm ist fully compatible with Windows Vista. Can you give me a date then the new vista-compatible version will come out? Tank you!
Tobi
Buy it now, you'll get a free upgrade to the Vista version anyway.
I'm not trying to start anything, really. But I haven't seen it mentioned in awhile so...is there any kind of updated timeline for a version 9 release, or maybe a planned public beta release?
Nope. We're working on it though.
I don't think we're "into" public betas but if you're using Vista feel free to talk to us about joining the beta group - we don't have many people testing for Vista yet. Email greg@gpsoft.com.au direct if you're interested.
As a legal owner of both Vista and Opus 8 (and being an ex-Windows beta tester - NT3.1,3.5,3.51,4... oh the shame...) I would be very interesting in beta testing a new version of Opus.
Having just loaded up Vista yesterday, I can say without a doubt, Vista is in more dire need of Opus than XP ever was!!
HELP!!
Regards,
Susi
Strange, I though dopus developers wouldn't start working on Vista until it's launched officially. Just for this reason, a lot of MSDN subscribers who got their Vista in December got hostile answers to their questions about Vista compatibility here. Now, we learn that work has started before the official launch. So all that bickering was for nothing.
I don't think there was ever any question that GPSoft would start working on a Vista version before Vista retail was out and with an aim to having something ready for, or shortly after, the retail release. Maybe there was some confusion by "not yet" being interpreted as "never", but a Vista version was always planned.
The bickering was due to people demanding a Vista version right away, despite the fact that Vista RTM was only just out at the time. (Also despite the fact that much bigger companies, including Microsoft themselves, still had (and still have) poor Vista support. I've had issues with almost every program and driver that I've tired so far, when they work at all. I'm not sure why people were demanding things immediately from GPSoft when just about everything else was in the same state at the time (and still is). As is always the case with a new OS, especially one which changes so much under the covers as Vista, it takes time for everything to be updated and if you jump to the new OS early then you have to accept that some things won't work for a while.)
My money is where my mouth is: Vista is now my main OS. I've had to hack around a few programs to get them to work, or find alternatives or go without. My graphics drivers are slow and buggy and took me over an hour to find because NVidia haven't released even beta drivers for the top-of-the-line 8800 cards. Half of my Logitech mouse doesn't work. My Logitech Sphere/Orbit webcam will apparently never work (thanks Logitech, it's only a year old and cost a fortune!). My old but perfectly good HP scanner will probably never work. (I'd happily pay for Vista drivers rather than waste the planet buying a new scanner.) My Microsoft fingerprint reader doesn't work... Half the apps I install fail because they write stuff to Program Files or whatever.
The impression I got from the previous Vista threads was that everything but Opus worked flawlessly and it was an outrage that GPSoft didn't have a Vista version yet... Now I'm actually using Vista I have no idea why people expected such things, unless they were spending all day complaining to every single person/company who makes Windows software, and not just to the Opus guys. Anyone who needs everything to work perfectly, out-of-the-box, should stick with XP for a bit longer.
This may make me sound anti-Vista but I'm not. I actually quite like it. I don't agree with 100% of the changes and I can't think of any reasons why someone should rush out and install it, but I think Microsoft have taken several steps in the right direction and I think it is a better OS than XP, all round. I wouldn't want to go back to XP now. Vista's not something to rush to, but not something to avoid, either.
Dear nudel,
What a balanced and sensible reply. Thank you.
I am an OEM and as such I am in a position to sell PC's with the OEM version installed now. As such, it seemed only fair that I had some working knowledge of Vista as I will be required to support it in the very near future. It wasn't a case of rushing out to buy, it was a case of having to install and use as quickly as possible.
I like Vista, except some of the directory changes seem a little arbitrary and possibly uneccessary. The only thing it lacks, other than an "UP" button on Windows Explorer is a decent file manager such as OPUS. I look forward to greeting a Vista release with much fanfare.
I have always recommended to my customers that they buy a copy of Opus for XP, and when a Vista release is available will promote that too. Even more vocally than before. Vista is in dire need of Opus.
The lack of an Up button really is quite strange. It's also odd that MS added a basic preview pane to Explorer but almost completely hid how to turn it on, or that it's there at all. (It's tucked away in the Layout button, and not in the Alt-menus at all.) Seems Explorer has had a lot of cosmetic changes (some really neat, like the folder thumbnails) but not been enhanced much in terms of actual usability.
Good news for GPSoft and all the other file manager makers, I guess.
Edit: I meant to say, the breadcrumbs path field somewhat removes the need for an Up button so maybe that's the logic behind removing it. I think we're all so used to using it, though, that it seems strange not to have it. Time will tell if the change is a grower, but I'm keeping the Up button in Opus. It's better to be able to click in the same place to go up every time, rather than have to look at where the next level up is in a breadcrumbs bar.
The trouble with the breadcrumb approach is that if you start from say a link to your downloads directory, there is no easy way back via the path to C:\ or the desktop as it is not shown.
This may be a poor example, but try going somewhere else from the conrol panel - the lack of an up button means that you have to open yet another explorer window from "Computer" (or whatever it's called - am using XP at the moment as need to get email done. Don't get me started on transferring ThunderBird to Vista!) to get where you need to be going.
I must be missing something here, but ever since the demise of File Manager, just how have these changes helped people who deal with hundreds of files and not just the odd document?
It strikes me as minimalist madness!
Like you say, it keeps you in work. Best of luck too- the more MS screws up, the more money you get. Sounds fine to me.
Just don't be too long with the Vista version of Opus - I'm tearing my hair out... and bald women don't often look that hot!!
I've continued discussion in a separate thread in the Coffeeshop area, so we can go further off topic about Vista and other non-Opus things.