Dopus "pro edition"?

[quote="fcueto"]The issue that Dopus has to face is, from someone coming from a build-in free explorer, the price to pay may seem to be too high. You don't purchase a 60€ software like you buy a 10€ one. This is a real long term investment and you think twice about it before clicking on the "place order" button.

That being said, I made the step myself several years ago and, trust me, I will never go back from dopus. Once you know what you can get from this software, you realize that browsing directory and managing files in a more convenient way than you can do with explorer is just 5% of the features of dopus.

Really, I'm not joking, the product is worth the price !

And to the dopus team : thank you, keep up the good work :slight_smile:[/quote]
Agreed, and thanks. :thumbsup:

I don't see Windows 8's Explorer as a game-changer, personally. The ribbon makes functionality easier to find than before (because it was mostly hidden in context menus in the past, with no real toolbar at all) but it isn't exposing much new functionality. There are a couple of interesting new things but it's still a very basic file manager and I doubt many people who were unhappy with Explorer before will change their minds. (While the people who were already happy weren't going to try an alternative anyway.)

"Love" isn't a word I'm hearing much about Windows 8 in general (on desktops/laptops). :slight_smile: The closest to praise I see is typically statements that it hasn't made things that different or that much worse than they were before, once you get used to things.

MTP support is planned. Both Jon & I now have Android tablets that use MTP. (This is getting quite off-topic, though.)

Again, we're not doing a free version. People who want something free and heavily limited, and who don't value file managers enough to support their development, are probably happy with Explorer and never going to even try an alternative.

[quote="leo"]
MTP support is planned. Both Jon & I now have Android tablets that use MTP. (This is getting quite off-topic, though.)[/quote]
...yeah, waited for years but now I do not need it anymore!!! Phone with custom ROM supports normal USB and tablet has Win8 installed :slight_smile:

As you said: Explorer just offers ribbon, but thats enough for the normal user. I know 2-3 people who bought DO after they saw it on my laptop. BUT: I had to explain a lot, installed them a "light-"version of my config and modified some things for their needs. And since then they never have changed anything in the config. Sure, there are happy, but they also do not want to try things because there are frightened to delete things and because it is too complicated - they just want to use.

Hah :slight_smile: FWIW, I don't think there was much demand for MTP until very recently. It was only mentioned by 4 people on the forum before this year. (Once in 2008, once in 2010, twice in 2011.) It's definitely important now, though, due to Android 4 switching over to it by default and being a very popular platform and one on which people need to copy files back & forth a lot.

I have to say that I am also a convert, having tried MTP out. I thought it was a bad move on Google's part to switch to MTP, but I was totally wrong. It works much better than USB mass storage (lets you work on a live filesystem, mounts instantly, no ejecting, etc.), and my worry that it would restrict which files could be copied to where, or which file types could be copied, were unfounded, at least on Android. (That stuff is part of the MTP API, but Android treats it like a generic filesystem as far as I can tell so far.)

Yes, I have friends who are similar. There was one or two things they really disliked about Explorer, and with some help I got them using Opus and they're much happier now, but unlikely to ever dig into the configuration or the really powerful stuff. The "Light" version will be better for that type of person, for sure.

The majority of people still won't want a file manager (or really know what one is or can do), and won't go looking for one by themselves, of course.

Android is much better than the Apple-things, which do not let me do with my data what I want to do. Never tried MTP, but thats because I do everything on my tablet now and its fantastic having same apps like on PC. And with i5, SSD and Digitizer....simply fast and great. But I run into off-topic...

I am sure a light version less than the half of the regular price would find lots of buyers, also some of my customers. I think the standard config should have more buttons (and less hidden commands in menus) than the default now has got (powerusers will always create their own). Or maybe a light and advanced config.

Also a introducing video (your vids, Leo, were always great and I also have learned things). But this video should also be available in German (I suppose the German market is important as there is always a German version available here :slight_smile:).

Just caught this discussion.

This idea could also be a corporate version. A company could create a configuration that meets its needs and roll that out to all users in the light version.

An advantage of this would be that pesky users could not get into the entrails and do their own customisation, with the inevitable consequences for IT support when things go wrong.

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Corporations can lock down the configuration pretty well already since it's stored in files and the methods of editing it can be hidden reasonably well (and we've not had any requests I know of to lock down configuration even more).