Inline Rename Trouble

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Hi there,

I hope you've all had a great week.

I'm a huge fan of the inline rename feature, whereby pressing F2 repeatedly lets you select the stem, extension and entire file name.

Lately, though, I've been having problems with some files, and that makes me wonder if some upgrade to the inline rename code may have inadvertently changed the behavior.
Not sure right now about ALL names that give me grief, but here is one example of a file name that does:
long_name.txt.txt

Believe it or not, such file names are fairly common, especially inheriting files from others.
No matter how many times I press F2, I only get "long_name". The extension and whole file name never get selected.

For the record, in Prefs / File Operations / Inline Rename, both boxes are unchecked, and I have "Select filename stem" by default. And pressing F2 repeatedly works with most file names.
Currently on 10.2.0.0 (4645) x64.

Thanks heaps!
Wishing you all a fun weekend.

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Does your F2 hotkey run rename inline by itself, or something else?

For me if I select long_name.txt.txt and push F2 repeatedly, Opus cycles through these selections:

long_name.txt.txt
long_name.txt.txt
long_name.txt.txt

3

Hi Leo!

From Customize / Keys:
F2 / Hotkey / Inline Rename / Begin inline rename of selected item.

I don't recall modifying it, I believe that's the default.

4

Double-click it to see what it's got set as its Function:

5

Hi Playful!

Just FYI, mine works like Leo's. I never knew about F2 so I never changed it :slight_smile:

6

Hi Leo,

Just like you: rename inline. If there are other tests I can run, please let me know.

Just FYI, mine works like Leo's.

@kbtcrash: you lucky dog. I wonder what that's all about. It didn't used to be a problem.

7

Here's a new example:

Tsotsi (2005).EN.srt
Pressing F2 repeatedly only selects Tsotsi (2005)

Leo, if you have some kind of debugging plug-in that could tell us what's going on when F2 is pressed (or a special beta), I'd be happy to run that.

8

I should add that on
7.3 Tsotsi (2005).avi
pressing F2 correctly cycles between
1 => 7.3 Tsotsi (2005)
2 => avi
3 => 7.3 Tsotsi (2005).avi

9

Do ctrl-e, ctrl-a, ctrl-f do anything when F2 doesn't seem to cycle correctly?

10

Yes!

On a.b.txt:
F2 => a (F2 doesn't cycle)
F2 then Ctrl + e => txt, then F2 cycles properly
F2 then Ctrl + a => a.b, then F2 cycles properly
F2 then Ctrl + f => a.b, then F2 cycles properly

11

Anything installed which might hook keypresses or change the way window focus or window arrangement works?

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Thanks, Leo... I have been wondering about that... and I'll keep wondering about that.
In the meantime, in case that's a clue: just noticed that spaces in the file name change the behavior.
Don't Cycle:
a.b.txt
a.b-2.txt
Cycle Normally:
a.b - 2.txt
a.b -2.txt

Off to install 10.2.0.1 beta in case something has changed. :slight_smile:

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I'm in the same boat as playful :cry:
Being new to DO I thought I mis-configured something but I don't think that I have.
I'm using BETA 10.2.0.1 (4683) x64 on Win 7 x64

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@FlyingHorse, nice to know that we're not alone! :slight_smile:

Leo, I think I might have the answer to your last question:

I booted in safe mode, launched Opus manually, and went to the four test files from my earlier post. The behavior is the same (still not cycling for the two file names that don't have a space).

15

Question: Do you have "Hide file extension in Filename column" turned on in the folder format?

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Hi Jon, yes. It sounds like you have found a clue!
Extensions are hidden from the file name field, and instead they are displayed in the second column (as a substitute to the "file type" column, because extensions usually consume fewer characters than file types).

When I press F2 multiple times, on almost every file name, F2 correctly cycles to the extension and to the entire file name, and I believe that was the case on all file names until very recently.

17

Ok, now that we know that elusive bit of information, we can reproduce this :slight_smile:

18

That's great news. And great sleuthing!
Wishing you a relaxing Sunday from across the Tasman.

19

Yes. Mine is this way also.

20

Update: mostly fixed, but not fully?

This has been mostly fixed in 10.2.0.2, and I am grateful for Opus Team for that.
I have been watching the new behavior since 10.2.0.2 and trying to decide over time if it feels normal, or weird.
After a few days of experience, my feeling is that it is still a bit weird.

Take a file called one.two.txt
(I have many files like that.)
Here is what gets selected when I press F2 to cycle:
1: one
2: one.two
3: txt
4: one.two.txt
5+: repeat steps 2 through 4

My feeling is that step 1 is a bug:

  1. In the first place I see no reason why one should get selected. For instance, if the file name were one-two.txt, on pressing F2, the first selection is one-two. This is the expected and documented behavior: stem, suffix, whole file name. Whether separators in file names are dashes, underscores or dots should make no difference. Right now it feels weird that pressing F2 on these files will treat them differently from other files.
  2. It also feels like a bug because in steps 5+, we repeat steps 2-3-4. Step 1 is omitted, which suggests it shouldn't be there at all.

Just a detail, but I know you guys like to get things right, and in the long haul my feeling is that it should be fixed. In fact, as I mentioned before, this strange behavior with dots was introduced in a recent version.

As always, endless thanks for the marvelous software. :smiley:

Wishing you all a fun weekend