Need some help with my toolbars

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i have made a number of toolbars - mostly links to applications with similar applications on the same toolbar. i.e. i have a media players toolbar and a system tools toolbar and an office toolbar and an encoders toolbar and an adobe toolbar etc etc.

i have them all active and i have dragged them around so that my 9 toolbars take up two rows.

what i was trying to do was deactivate a toolbar when i don't want to use it and when i activate it i want it to go back where it was (next to the other toolbars). when i activate the toolbar it places itself at the bottom so now i have 3 rows of toolbars.

i've also tried hiding but the toolbar pops up at the top (displaying a screwdriver that shows that a toolbar is hidden) this uses more room than i saved by hiding it.

i tried locking the toolbars - this looks nicer but when i deactivate and then activate it doesn't remember where it should be.

does anybody have any idea how to help me. do i need to save these settings ?

thank you

You can do this by creating a button or hotkey to toggle the Toolbar on and specify it's position. For example,

Toolbar "My Toolbar" TOGGLE LINE=1,500

This would toggle the toolbar named "My Toolbar" on or off. If turning it on, it will be positioned on line 1, 500 pixels from the left. Note that lines are numbered starting from 0 (so line 1 is actually the second row of toolbars).

thank you very much.

i'll give it a go

it didn't really work.

it hid the toolbar okay but when i unhid it the toolbar was longer than it was previously and didn't stay where i wanted it - it went on the line after(on it's own) - the same as it did before.

i also don't think it will do what i want.

if i have three toolbars in a row i'd like the hide the middle one and have the third move over automatically next to the first.

is this possible?

Could you post some screenshots so we can see what you're trying to do?

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as you can see i have 9 toolbars on two rows. these are probably all the shortcuts that i need.

sometimes i like to hide a toolbar or 2 but when i unhide them they do not remember where they where - they put themselves on a third row.

Toolbar "My Toolbar" TOGGLE LINE=1,500 was suggested but i had problems with it - see post above. i also thought that as i had 9 toolbars i would have to make 9 buttons to toggle them, and if i added another shortcut to toolbar 4 this would make it longer and i would have to reposition the toggle buttons for toolbars 5,6,7,8 and 9. this seems too time consuming.

what i was hoping for was for me to hide/unhide for example toolbar 3 (this is the easiest as it is on the end of the row) and have it return to where it was, unless i had hidden toolbar 2 - then i wanted it to move along the row and rest against toolbar 1 (i think this could be called dynamic positioning?)

so to recap if i hide/unhide a single toolbar i want it to return to where i had positioned it. and if i have 1 or more toolbars hidden (say 5,6 and 7) when i unhide toolbar 7 i'd like it to know that it should be on the third row and that it should be between 6 and 8 but as there is no 5 and 6 (they are hidden) i'd like it to slide over to rest against toolbar 4.

is this possible?


Are you sure you used the right numbers in the LINE argument?

Taking your toolbar #5 as an example, the command to toggle it would be something like this:

Toolbar "My Toolbar" TOGGLE LINE=3,128

That toolbar is on the 4th line (note that the menu bar is a toolbar too) and counting starts from 0, so the line argument is 3. The 128 part just means 128 pixels from the left.

There isn't an easy way to do that. You can reposition multiple toolbars in a single button or hotkey press but there isn't an easy way for the button to know which toolbars are shown/hidden and thus to know where to put them all.

You could probably do it using VBScript or AutoIt or similar tools but I think it would be more complex than it's worth.

Would you ever want to see more than one of these extra toolbars at once? If not then you could make the buttons which turn on an extra toolbar turn off all the other extra toolbars. That should be easy.

Some of those toolbars -- e.g. the ones for launching games & standalone apps-- look like they might be better as a sub-menu. Then they'd always be available and only take up one icon in the window.

Don't forget that Opus can also created floating and docked toolbars which aren't tied to an Opus window. Those are good for launching apps from. (I've got a docked toolbar across the top of my primary monitor, like a second taskbar, full of buttons and menus for launching programs.)

thank you for your replies.

i quite like having all my shortcuts on the 2 rows - everything i use regularly is 1 click away.

i was playing around trying to see what could be done with them - i thought opus would remember the placements of the toolbars - especially if they are locked. after all i created and dragged and dropped the toolbars and opus must know where they are supposed to be because when i start opus it displays everything - buttons, menus, toolbars all where i put them, i thought if i hid/unhid one or two it should put them at the very least back where they were. opus must know which toolbars are hidden or displayed so ideally i wanted it to slide toolbar 3 along if toolbar 2 is hidden.

i hoped this would be built in to opus customization of toolbars - but it seems to much trouble to toggle them all individually - as i said it looks like if i add a shortcut to a toolbar the toolbar is longer an i have to manually change the placement of every toolbar after it.

as for the toolbar toggle if i set it at 2, 900 it puts it on it's own on line 3
800 puts it just short of the middle of the dual lister 900 put it on the next line. i have posted a capture with 800 - think the problem might have something to do with all the crazy space after my 6 icons. or it maybe because i am using dual lister?


Opus should remember the positions of open toolbars.

If you close a toolbar then Opus forgets all about it.

If you want to re-open a toolbar in a specific place then you've got to create a button specifying the position.

That toolbar with the huge gap after it: If you go into Customize mode, is there a spacer after the icons? If there is, delete the spacer and see if that fixes the problem.

there's no separator

If you zip up the toolbar files (type /dopusdata into the location field and they'll be in the Buttons sub-directory) and include the buttons/toolbars which toggle the other toolbars, I'll see if I can reproduce what you're seeing.

that's okay. there's no need to bother.

i think i'll just leave them all on view.

thank you