The recently added EXIF field named Date/Time Created is not reading the EXIF CreateDate metadata.
The screenshot below shows the empty Date/Time Created field next to the EXIF-CreateDate Script column from lxp's Exiftool Custom Columns plugin:
It's showing up for my test file, at least.
Could you zip and attach an example image with the problem? (Doesn't matter what the actual image data is, as long as the metadata has the shown problem.)
No EXIF-CreateDate displayed in Opus.zip (3.2 MB)
In addition...
I am incredulous as to why the text ‘EXIF’ was not included in the new column names.
People are already so confused by photo metadata, and by not including EXIF, in the Date/Time Created field name, I anticipate people will not understand if/when the system/file Date Created does not match.
Since 'DateTimeOriginal' is a uniquely recognizable field name, it's not a big problem, but I still think EXIF should be included.
Please consider changing the column names to what people are used to seeing see when they view EXIF metadata:
- EXIF DateTimeOriginal
- EXIF CreateDate*
If you agree with me, please say so!
There's no EXIF Date/Time Created field.
The column that ExifTool calls CreateDate is called DateTimeDigitzed by the EXIF spec (ID 0x9004). Opus shows this in the Date Digitzed column.
The new Date/Time Created column is made up of Xmp.xmp.CreateDate and Iptc.Application2.DateCreated, which is the other half of the Date Taken column (which also includes Exif.Photo.DateTimeOriginal and Xmp.exif.DateTimeOriginal).
Date Taken:
Exif.Photo.DateTimeOriginal
Xmp.exif.DateTimeOriginal
Xmp.xmp.CreateDate
Iptc.Application2.DateCreated
Date/Time Original:
Exif.Photo.DateTimeOriginal
Xmp.exif.DateTimeOriginal
Date/Time Created:
Xmp.xmp.CreateDate
Iptc.Application2.DateCreated
Regarding this:
Release notes for 13.8 includes the following text:
Directory Opus 13.8:
That suggested to me that one of the fields added was EXIF-CreateDate.
But no. That was not the field that was added.
The new Date/Time Created field (unique to Opus, I believe) is a combination of two fields: XMP-DateCreated and IPTC DateCreated.
IPTC and XMP fields are not EXIF fields:
https://exiftool.org/TagNames/EXIF.html
...but some applications look at certain EXIF fields and then add matching XMP and/or IPTC metadata. For example, when Lightroom Classic reads EXIF-DateTimeOriginal, it adds an XMP and an IPTC field with a date and time matching the EXIF-DateTimeOriginal.
We've edited the release notes, but you asked yourself for "EXIF CreateDate" to be added, which is a field that doesn't seem to exist if you meant "EXIF" literally (and not in the more general "photo metadata" sense that "EXIF" is sometimes used to mean), so we aren't sure what you actually wanted here.
Leo,
Thank you for editing the release notes. I didn't want anyone else to think what I thought.
The only place I have ever seen EXIF used to mean 'photo metadata' is in this forum.
EXIF, XMP, and IPTC, and system properties should (ideally) be labelled as such, but in many applications they are not.
While I believe the name of the new Date/TimeOriginal field should include 'EXIF', its not a big deal since it can't be confused with other photo metadata fields.
While I did request that EXIF-DateTimeOriginal be added as a metadata field, I did not ask for EXIF-CreateDate (a.k.a. EXIF-DateTimeDigitized) to be added, but I was pleased when I wrongly though it had been.
The EXIF-DateTimeDigitized is field commonly known as Exif-CreateDate (because that’s what ExifTool.org calls it), and so, Exif-CreateDate is widely accepted as a synonym of
EXIF-DateTimeDigitized.
For example, the ExifTool Custom Columns plugin for Opus calls it EXIF-CreateDate.
When I last tested the Opus Date Digitized field (at least year ago) it did not seem to always be the same as EXIF-Create Date, so I do not rely on Date Digitized.
They're the same thing. EXIFTool has the wrong name for it, that's all.
If ExifTool has the wrong name for it, then so do many applications. Exiftool terminology seems to be more commonly used than what is listed here: STANDARD | Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industries Association
I don't choose the names of the fields, I'm just informing you of you the reality of the situation.
Please don't blame the messenger - especially when you just invented a new field and gave it a name that can be confused with System Date Created, IPTC-Date Created, XMP-Date Created or EXIF-Create Date (a.k.a. EXIF Date Digitized).
When I see a photo date field (EXIF, IPTC, XMP, or system) that I'm not sure about it, like Opus' new Date/Time Created field, I do testing to determine what metadata fields are read and written.
So please don't lecture me on what names are correct or incorrect.
We didn't invent a new field, we split up the existing field (which you keep endlessly saying "isn't a real field") into its consituent parts, because we thought that's what you wanted.
Clearly you'll never be satisfied no matter what lengths we go to to appease you.