Opus 11.12.1 and Meta data

I am having trouble with the latest Opus release. I cannot add metadata to images through the metadata panel. If I change metadata and attempt to save the changes, the metadata reverts to the original. If I try to add Metadata to an image that has no metadata, the new metadata is not saved.

I can change metadata in Adobe Bridge and have the changes reflected in the Opus metadata panel, however.

Can I thank you for your early delivery on your promise to tighten the relationship between the IPTC fields in Adobe Bridger and Opus metadata. The Opus metadata for images is now much more logical and useful.

To help us reproduce what you are seeing:

[ul][li]Please attach a sample file that you're trying to modify and seeing the problem with.[/li]
[li]Please tell us which metadata you are trying to change, and the values you're trying to change them to.[/li][/ul]

Basically Leo, it does not matter which field I try to change in the new version.

The image attached worked fine in the previous version.

If I try to change the Copyright field to Rex Features London, for instance, the change is never saved.

Same problem on other JPGs, too.

cpix Be Fit London.zip (931 KB)

This is with 11.12.1:

Am I doing anything different to what you're doing?

Could anything be preventing the file from being modified? (e.g. It's open in another program or in a folder you can't modify.)

There is definitely an issue with the new version, concerning tags and metadata. When i tried to use the "Tagger" script, Opus crashed. I had to roll back to 11.12.

Pretty much Leo, and I see it seems to work for you, but not for me. The image is not in use. I can try to change metadata in Opus, then immediately open it in Photoshop and make metadata changes.
Strange thing is that I changed the metadata on this file in Opus earlier today using the previous version of Opus. The problem has only arisen since I updated

Problem definitely with new version. Have gone back to previous version and metadata editing is just fine.

I have noticed a small difference between the versions. In the new version when you edit a metadata field and move to another , the little red triangle at the start of the field DOES NOT appear.

In the previous version it does.

That script does some pretty weird stuff involving window handles, and has crashed in the past, if I recall correctly. Not sure where the problem is but it'd be better to focus on reproducing it without the script being involved, if you think it is to do with changes to Opus and not something the script is doing.

[quote="auden"]Problem definitely with new version. Have gone back to previous version and metadata editing is just fine.

I have noticed a small difference between the versions. In the new version when you edit a metadata field and move to another , the little red triangle at the start of the field DOES NOT appear.

In the previous version it does.[/quote]

Something strange is going on, since you can see the red triangle appear in my video after I edit the field. (I wouldn't be able to click Apply if nothing was registered as changed, either.)

Are there any sidecar .xmp files or similar in the same folder?

Are you checking that the file has changed in Opus and seeing the old data still there, or are is the problem that you're loading it into Photoshop and not seeing the change?

I think that is the point Leo. Nothing really has changed. In order to apply the change I have made in the latest Opus version, I have to click in the field I am changing to make the red triangle appear so that I can apply the changes. the problem is that when I apply the changes the old pre-changed data reappears in Opus and the change is discarded. In fact, I am pretty sure that Opus makes no attempt to save the file. If I open the file in Photoshop I see the old data.

However, if I make the same data change in Photoshop and look at the metadata in Opus, the change is there, which, to me, indicates that the problem, whatever it is, lies in the latest version of Opus.

There are no sidecar.xmp files in the folder.

However there are other image format files like psd files and pdf files in the folder.

Video of what happens
dop(2).zip (3.45 MB)

The enclosed screenshot shows what happened when I tried to add metadata to a field using the latest version of Opus. It may give a clue as to what is going on.

Looking at the video, you're clicking on the line you are editing to apply the change, which I think is confusing Opus because that makes you start editing the same line again, and the change is never applied.

If you click almost anywhere else, before clicking Apply, does it work?

Looking at the screenshot, I'm not sure what is meant by a "white icon appeared". I can't see a white icon anywhere.

I see where you are coming from, but I have always worked like that and it makes no difference if I click on another field before applying metadata changes.
The white icon I am talking about is the first icon on the top row called 02jpg7620.

I had a similar sort of thing a few months ago when trying to change metadata on PSD files, but you fixed that.

What I would say is that if I go back to the previous version everything works fine.

Also could you tell me which IPTC field is the equivalent of the the Opus Subject field?

What happens if you click to the right of the field you are editing, instead of on the left of it?

Or, just push Return after typing the change, before clicking Apply.

You want to make sure the edit box you were typing in goes away when you click. If the edit box is still there (which will happen if you click on the left where the red arrows appear), then it might be what's causing the problem. (This is just a theory at this stage.)

Please also try turning off the checkbox next to the Apply button, in case that is related. The 002.jpg7620 file looks like a partially-updated version of the file which is left when writing the new version, or replacing the old version with a new version, fails for some reason. Maybe the issue is tied to clicking Apply when automatic application is also turned on, and Opus is trying to update the file twice.

We should be able to fix whatever is happening, but we need to make sure we understand where it's going wrong first.

Follow-up to previous post: Please also try fully exiting Opus (via File / Exit Directory Opus) to see if it starts working again after a restart. (Don't just close the window, as it will still be running in the background. Use the explicit Exit option, please.)

I think I just reproduced the problem, but it went away again after I did this, and I'm now no longer able to reproduce it again. There does seem to be a problem here somewhere, but triggering it seems to need something specific that we need to nail down in order to understand what's going wrong and fix it.

I tried all the things you suggested in your last two posts.

Whatever I do I get the same problem. The modifications I make appear in the box but when I apply them the box is filled with the pre-modification data.

Quitting and re-booting made no difference. I had already tried this.

It does seem a little more than a co-incidence that the new beta version contains alterations to link Opus and IPTC data more firmly.
Thanks for your efforts

I select a .jpg and press Ctrl-M and the metadata window appears.
I can edit existing fields and the changes are saved, no crash.
I can edit empty fields - except Authors - and changes are saved, no crash.
If I edit the currently empty Authors field at the top, crash every time with error 0xC0000005 and offer to terminate thread.
(Edited by typing into the field, press Return and red triangle appears, click OK at bottom)


Also happens with the Tags field, but no others that I've noticed.


@comtrjl: Thanks for the report! I can reproduce this, and it will be fixed in the next update.