[quote="leo"]Nothing has gone wrong.[/quote] Thank you all we wanted to know has this change since version 8 to ver 9 of update.
[quote="leo"]In the past (a few years ago), the help file only had a subset of what was in the full PDF file but these days the help file has the same content as the PDF file.[/quote] I see thanks for your clarification.
[quote="leo"]Since the help file is more suited to reading on screen than the PDF file (which, formatted for pieces of paper, is more suited to printing out), I think it makes sense that F1 (and the help menu) open the help file rather than the PDF, by default.[/quote] Ok but when in the menu of DOpus why change it to suit to open the Windows Help as in screenshot rather than its own product.
[quote="leo"]by copying the PDF to the Opus directory with a special filename[/quote] That's what we have done then we need to find out that special name.
[quote="leo"]One menu item opens the standalone Find Window while the other opens the Find Panel in the current lister.
I only ever use the Find Panel myself.[/quote] Yes but what we are trying to understand why not have the same features for both.
[quote="michaelkenward"]I too am a fan of the PDF file. You can annotate, highlight and search outside DOpus. (So long as the PDF file has not lapsed back to being protected from user intrusion, as happened once by accident.)[/quote] Thats like what we like about it as well.
[quote="michaelkenward"]You can add other thing in as Help menu entries to remember other useful stuff, such as:[/quote] So much powere we still have to learn.
[quote="leo"]You can also drag the PDF file into the menu (while in Customize mode) to get a similar result.[/quote] We try this as well.
I really don't think anyone is going to be able to help you figure out why that non-standard 'View Help' item is on your Help menu... Unless it is some left over piece of an Opus 8 installation or customization (which you mentioned having come from v8 to v9); and other than easing any concern you might have that either Opus is adding things to it's own menu bars by itself, or somebody other than you is messing around with your system config, I don't see much point in continuing on about that specific question. As you know, Opus is very customizable - so you can easily either modify the existing 'Help F1' menu item to open the PDF file that you want - or add a new menu entry to load the PDF - done.
So that's it on "fixing" it to make it work the way you want... just pick your preferred way of doing it. Anecdotally, and at the risk going further down this rabbit-hole - I'm curious how that 'View Help' button is doing anything at all. In your "Customize" mode screenshot, it looks like that item is just the default 'Help Menu Marker' - and I don't even see where the menu item could be showing up with the 'View Help' label, it shouldn't be showing up at all. Weird.
Leo gave his thoughts on the Output Window... if you want to use it, then feel free - but you can't print 'directly' from it.
Not sure if you're still having trouble with the File->Find menu item seeming to run a different command than the <Ctrl+F> hotkey... you seemed to still question your results in your last comment about it. What I had been trying to tell you was that in a 'default' Opus configuration, the File->Menu command and the <Ctrl+F> hotkey are not two separately defined items... the hotkey is 'assigned' to the menu item, so they are not just supposed to be "running the same commands" they are a single configuration item. If you change the command in one interface (like in the Customize->Keys tab), then you see the change reflected in the other (such as editing the menu item directly).
For you:
If you edit the File->Find menu item, does it show the Ctrl + F hotkey assignment?
What is the command it (your Find menu item) is configured to run?
If you look at the 'Keys' tab in the Customize dialog, do you have more than one Ctrl + F key defined?
What is the command it (your Ctrl + F hotkey) is configured to run?
The 'Help Menu Marker' at the bottom of the default Help menu is a placeholder for any menu items which a virtual folder (e.g. My Computer) might want to add to the Help menu.
The 'View Help' item is added that way in system folders like My Computer where the view is provided by Windows Explorer (or, technically, the shell). The item does the same thing as the same item in Windows Explorer's menu, since it is the same thing.
If you're in a folder which Opus can display by itself then you won't see the 'View Help' item.
Opus's own help item is the one at the top of the default Help menu.
I, and perhaps everyone else, had overlooked that your View Help displays generic Windows Help rather than specific DOpus help. I (we?) thought your question/complaint was related to seeing a Windows Help formatted version of DOpus help rather than a PDF version of DOpus help. I finally understand that you are confused because View Help displays something not related to DOpus at all, but we can't tell you why View Help does that because we can't tell you why View Help is even there in the first place.
I think Leo already described what that 'View Help' item was doing there... and what you see (or don't see) depending on the folder you're currently viewing is sure to be affected by the Windows version you're using. For instance, here is a screenshot of the Help menu contents when viewing the control panel folder on WinXP...
I had forgotten how the 'Menu Markers' actually work - and I think Leo explained it very clearly. But I think blade's question(s) around this were multi-pronged. He was asking about BOTH the 'View Help' results, as well as expressing a preference of the PDF file over the built-in windows help formatted help system... which I think has been explained he can easily put in place by editing the menu item of his choice or by dragging the PDF to the menu while in customize mode, and creating a new item to launch the PDF.
I, and perhaps everyone else, had overlooked that your View Help displays generic Windows Help rather than specific DOpus help. I (we?) thought your question/complaint was related to seeing a Windows Help formatted version of DOpus help rather than a PDF version of DOpus help. I finally understand that you are confused because View Help displays something not related to DOpus at all, but we can't tell you why View Help does that because we can't tell you why View Help is even there in the first place.[/quote] Correct.
I think Leo already described what that 'View Help' item was doing there... and what you see (or don't see) depending on the folder you're currently viewing is sure to be affected by the Windows version you're using. For instance, here is a screenshot of the Help menu contents when viewing the control panel folder on WinXP...
I had forgotten how the 'Menu Markers' actually work - and I think Leo explained it very clearly. But I think blade's question(s) around this were multi-pronged. He was asking about BOTH the 'View Help' results, as well as expressing a preference of the PDF file over the built-in windows help formatted help system... which I think has been explained he can easily put in place by editing the menu item of his choice or by dragging the PDF to the menu while in customize mode, and creating a new item to launch the PDF.[/quote] Thanks for your help guys.
steje my next task is doing what you have in the screenshot opening my control panel via DOpus. Look at this thread Recycle Bin & Control Panel if you could post how the setup for that is done.
