Sorry, but it is still a mess. Once i mis-drag a toolbar, which happens very easily, there is no way to save the situation, even when aborting the action; the toolbar will still end up in the wrong place. That's not the point of aborting an action , and it bothers me for a long time.
Another thing, how to exactly drag things isn't quite clear to me. The toolbar tends to jump around uncontrolled. Not easy, to place it correctly (maybe due to my 4K monitor, which makes GUI elements tinyer). Once it slips down, other toolbars might get stirred up as well.
Current case: i have tried to move over the new favorites bar to the right file display side, but it ended up as a wide vertical toolbar on the left side. I wasn't able to place it horizontally between the other toolbars, because Opus inserted it between already existing menu items, regardless, how i tried.
One main reason for that is, that it's possible to drag toolbars up and down. It should be only possible dragging them left or right. To move them up or down - my suggestion - should require the shift or similar key to be held down.
Or at least, hitting abort should abandon all changes. Of course i know, we can make a backup prior to any toolbar rearranging session, but then things still will go wrong half of the time.
If it is possible for V13, please improve the drag and drop behavior.
Just drag if back, then turn on the lock so you can’t drag them by accident.
You can also save a Toolbar Set to let you restore the arrangement you want.
And you can turn off automatic saving when the window is closed, so that any accidents can be undone by simply closing the window and opening a new one.
Can’t see how this could be improved beyond what’s there already.
easy to restore if you have a bunch of saved favorite sets
although you cannot assign a global hotkey to Toolbar LIST=sets so you would need at least one toolbar visible with the button on it to restore a set.
That's what i usually try. But once it was going wrong, there is no good way to drag it back.
Sounds good. But where is that setting? And also thanks for the tip with saving the toolbars separately. I almost never used that before. Instead, i mostly do full backups. Still would appreciate some improvement, it is very delicate with toolbar arranging.
I tried dragging the favs bar sideways. From the side aligning to the middle of the right file display. But missed somehow, and finally it ended up as a wide toolbar near the left file display. And like i mentioned, i had problems to move it between the other toolbars above, from that side position.
No. Looks like half an hour of trial and error, for a task, which should takes a few seconds, and lots of RTFM-ing .
How would i know the correct values to set the toolbar aligning with the separator of my two file displays, other than guessing pixel counts?
Like i said, the main issue is, that we can drag it up and down. If all movement was restricted to stay in the same line, horizontally, no misdragging could happen. All issues i encountered happened with toolbars slippling vertically, and that usually led to chaos with all other positions. Even in cases, where i could drag the toolbar back to the right line, other ones tended to end up in the wrong place.
You want the toolbar in the middle of the right file display? As in overlapping it?
How was it put there before it was accidentally moved somewhere else?
(I suspect I've misunderstood a detail/step somewhere about what you're trying to do. Or the position you're trying to drag the toolbar to isn't supported at all, which would prevent you dragging a toolbar to there.)
Well, actually it happened when i was adding or modifying a very wide separator element. That is the way i achieve the placement over the middle separator. But that was only a special case. I don't rearrange toolbars very often, but when i do, it is always a very delicate action. The image below shows my current placement of the favs bar, which i found to be more convenient placed at the right side.
, and it bothers me for a long time.
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