Is it possible to open folders in a right viewer pane by selecting them in the left lister window?
- similar to outlook reading pane for emails
This would be very efficient to quickly scan folders using a viewer!
Thanks,
Kurt
[quote="kgibbs"]Is it possible to open folders in a right viewer pane by selecting them in the left lister window?
- similar to outlook reading pane for emails
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I don´t think, that it is possible by only having them selected, at least automatically. But it is no problem
to make a function, that opens folders in the opposite lister by a command.
By a command meaning a macro or script?
Isn't that what the folder tree is for?
Single-Click a folder in the folder tree and see the contents in the source window.
What's the adantage of clicking a folder in the source, and seeing the contents in preview?
(I'm actually curious if that would be useful.)
There are advantages:
If you are trying to restructure, organize and manage many files and folders at the same time. The tree only shows folders not the files and details in each window.
If using two monitors this would provide twice the information at a glance when cross-checking!
When I use the tree I am constantly toggling back and forth to compare details. Sometimes when I get going to fast I inadvertently drag a folder into another folder. Then I have to find it or worse, I’m not sure after accidentally drag-clicking, if I moved a folder into another one. You can still do this in a regular window but this feature would reduce the chances by more than half.
Also it would be nice to see just the current and relevant folder contents and to be able to sort and use different views in either window.
You could always use Undo when you accidentally move things.
I wish that were true, doesn't work right over a non domain or peer-to-peer network. I've tried this and ended up finding out that the whole folder had been deleted and unrecoverable, even with forensic undelete technology. If you want to delete something permanently, delete it over a peer-to-peer network, it is next to impossible to recover.
Yes, I could and should have a backup system running and peer-to-peer network file protection running. But I didn't at several times this happened to me and it was a big mistake to find out the hard way. I have since learned to either be careful or only do this on the server or make sure the backup is current.
Aren't we talking about accidental drag & drop, which would only copy or move files? That should always be undoable as nothing is deleted or overwritten (unless you've turned off prompts about overwriting files).
Leo - If you drag a folder into another folder that is over a peer-to-peer network and you then undo this action via CTRL-Z, this runs a high risk of deleting the whole folder and its contents. I've had this happen to me as well as others I've discussed this with many times past. At this point you would think to check the recycle folder, but it's not there. Next you would check the recycle folder on the server where the folder and files resided on, but not there. Now you become a little concerned but remember you have the best undelete technology available with 24 hr phone support. So no worries, right? Not really! After running the most comprehensive image scans possible, there was no trace of the folder or any of the files inside it. But no worries, the support-line experts will remedy this, right? Think again! They told me this is a worst case scenario and requires finding and rebuilding every file header to re-image the files. This would take an enormous amount of time that isn’t reasonable. This is basically what has to bee done on the forensic reconstruction of deleted or damaged hard-drives. This usually runs around $150-$300 hr. “unless” you know how to do it yourself, and most don’t. So it’s not a mistake you want to learn the hard way.
Try this out yourself --- via peer-to-peer network on another remote server, create a folder and put some files in it. Now drag it to another folder and then try to undo it with CTRL-Z. Sometimes you get lucky! But what if you did another action or more after this before you realized what happened or the remote server or machine you’re using did some routine that confused the local undo stack with NetBIOS. This type of undo is very unpredictable. Probably because windows doesn’t keep a NetBIOS history for undo purposes and the "normal", local undo stack, doesn’t have a way to reliably track or access any history for it. It’s not like the normal, local, reliable undo that always works the way you’re used to. Try it out --- maybe win7 network has improved this? I doubt it though! I however would be very interested in knowing the findings as this has been a noted risk in my realm for many years past.
This may all sound like an over dramatic hypothetical case scenario; but when you have to shuffle large quantities of files and folders daily i.e. (CGI for film, Flight Simulator graphics, Autocad 3D virtual simulations, etc.) the routines have to precise, predictable, streamlined and most of all -- avoid unfixable errors by reducing the likelihood for the occurrence. i.e. (avoid shuffling views back and fourth as much as possible) when sorting files and folders!
I've used undo with moves on network drives loads of times without problems. The recycle bin is irrelevant as nothing is being deleted; things are being moved instead, and the recycle bin doesn't work on network drives anyway.
Undoing a move is usually trivial; you just move the items back to where they were. Nothing is lost unless an overwrite happens, which you would usually be prompted about before.
If you're that worried about it, though, you could disable drag & drop entirely.
I know your just trying to help.
I guess you've had better luck with this. If I disable drag and drop, how would I sort the files and folders? You say loads of times, on what os version using what shell-file-commander, just curious? However, even if all was exactly the same, this has been and still is a very real pitfall for me and my colleges to avoid. The best assurance we adhere to is a current backup of the network fiber-raids before doing any heavy directory reconstructions i.e. (daily).
All is well though! I am very pleased with Opus and your fantastic support and enjoy discussing such. Having this type of unique folder scanner would be cool and probably more of a novelty than practical for most. But I’d still like to retain my vote as a useful feature in my realm, thanks!
I can't speak for how other software works, but for Opus, moving files on a network share is exactly the same as moving them locally. NetBIOS, etc doesn't come into it - to undo a move from A to B, Opus simply does another move from B to A. There's no concept of "undo" in NetBIOS or other networking protocol that Opus uses - it simply performs the reverse operation to the original one.
Yes, I see this is different with Opus! I pressed CTRL-Z and nothing happened, so I right clicked and noticed there is an undo-menu-history "COOL!" This is a big improvement over windows explorer. I obviously haven’t learned the depth of the features herein Opus – Thanks! I had a feeling I was going to be enlightened in this post somehow. There’s more than one way to circumvent windows deficiencies.
Using the Copy and Move buttons on the toolbar. They move the selected items from the source directory to the destination directory (or prompt you if there is no destination, i.e. if you only have one file display open and no other windows).
There's a video in the tutorials section of the forum which explains it in detail.