I am not sure about the rationale with the copy dialogs, and I think it was requested before, but is it please possible to add a "show total size done/total size to do" in bytes to the file copy dialog?
Currently the dopus copy dialog only shows the current item size progress. It does also show the progress in terms of total number of files, but this is utterly meaningless as a progress bar, because one large file can take as long as 10,000 small files to copy.
The Windows 8 and 10 standard copy dialogs show a nice size-oriented progress bar graph. I think Dopus should at least show the information Windows shows by default. Otherwise it feels like going back from explorer.
Make sure Preferences / File Operations / Progress Indicators / Count files in folders before copying for... is turned on, and that the drop-down includes the type of drive you're using.
The bar is ok, but it really would be nice to see the already copied size and the total size. Or simply the total size left.
Why? It's just useful to know the overall size that still needs to be copied . And when copying thousands of small files, e.g. to USB, time is relative.
Is the bar useful when copying small files and it's just flickering? You can't even count the completed bars.
It's more a psychological thing and simply an additional information.
I often see people not asking for time, but for GB's left and/or how much was already copied - you "feel" the time, but you can't imagine the copied bytes! When e.g. copying lots of files to FTP/USB, connections/cache could slow down etc., so time is relative and a left total-size simply another indicator.
More information is not a bad thing, even if you find it useless it may be useful for someone else, even is it's purely psychological. Knowing how much you will copy and how much have been done is not useless I think, especially when DOpus knows it and use it to calculate the progress bars.
And it's displayed for individual items of the queue, how the same info for the whole queue would become useless ?
And the size of the queues pending would also be a nice information to display, to know how much is still left to copy.
The "graph on copy dialog" was already a heated issue, and I remember how you were strongly against it, and now it's in DOpus 12.
Now, only this information (even optional) is missing. (Although, I'm not sure about displaying it in bytes, a smart unit is probably better, but that's almost obvious).
The total size in copy dialog is something which miss to me also. I already ask for it in Dopus 10. I'm sad to see you still don't want to display it, and you leave no choice for that.
Old program like supercopier manage copy better than dopus, and I don't understand why it's not present in a so complete program like Dopus.
I really like dopus, but I won't upgrade my version (10) until this important option - for me - is added ...
As said we already had max, min and average speed, so what's the graph for? It also won't help finding issues with devices. Nevertheless there're some people saying it's useful for them. I don't need time left, I would know how long copying takes (~) by simply knowing the GB's left.
To the people who prefer to see some kind of percentage or details on how much bytes are still to be copied:
Be aware that for this to work, the information (total number of bytes) needs to be gathered before the operation takes place. This can take quite some time to complete. Explorer is a bad example here, whenever you want to pull of a "quick" copy of something, it starts counting files, subfolders and sizes first. I totally can't stand that, as it will just slow down things even more.
The varying copy speeds of many small files or just big chunks of data is also not helping to get a serious prediction on how long the operation may take. So, counting the amount of data beforehand might give you an idea on how much is to be copied, but it will take even longer and the time it takes to complete still cannot be determined exactly, not even close.
Just saying. o) For the graph, I don't mind it. o)
I'd concentrate on enhancing the replace dialog (show paths of regarding items and force visibility of delayed progress dialog to allow switching to unattended mode), better unattended mode (add "rename new" + export errors to filecollection, support "move" and errors while deleting), add "skip folder" option while copy/move/delete (not just single files) and introducing unattended mode for heavy delete ops. Getting offtopic here I guess, but couldn't help! o)
Ok, why not asking GP to remove elapsed time then?
In most cases it doesn't take long for counting, but if so, there's already an option to cancel counting. I use counting for years now and btw other infos (time) already requires counting. So where's the problem? Too inaccurate? Ok, GP remove time left please...
And sorry, concentrating GP's man-power to enhance things you like more is no argument.
I seem to have two modes... I queue up lots of copies and walk away, or I'm copying something and I'll literally watch the progress bar, and read the 'useless information' as if it meant something.
Sometimes I check it so I can tell the person waiting behind me to go away for X minutes, but usually it because everything else I need to do it waiting in it, and I need to know if there is enough time to grab another cup of coffee or not.
Compared to the speed of the disk, updating a progress dialog with useless information is quick... If you were to add a drop down button labelled 'more', the first click could display the graph, the second could display the bytes count, average file size, fastest and slowest file.
The next click could display the current phase and position of the moon, and where it is expected to be when the copy is finished..
@PerlLlama, Leo
This is the v10 dialog right? I liked that and now remember that it took some time to get used to the v11 dialog. The v10 dialog was nearly perfect, it lacked clear details on the paths currently used, but appearance and the amount of details visible was excellent. o)
Yes, once the operation started, updating the dialog with progress details should not influence copy speed, it's the time to scan the folders beforehand what I was talking about. For my photo collection it takes 40 seconds, just tried. Whole operation then estimates to 1h and more.
@Sasa
I see, one can use the "Skip" button to cancel the counting phase. This is new for me, thanks. o)
Mhh, looking at the v10 dialog and the possibility to cancel the counting phase, I must admit my mindset changed a bit.
The number of files and total size is actually nice to see. Maybe I forgot about it, but points still stand. It does not make anything quicker. In case these details make it "feel" quicker occasionally, then maybe yes, why not! o)
. And when copying thousands of small files, e.g. to USB, time is relative.
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