Skip Identical (All)?

Hello All,

Actually the design of the Copy/move files conflict dialog is superb and well thought.

Just I think it's missing an additional (and highly required) option: Skip Identical (All).

It's strange that there are a couple of each conflict resolution option like {rename new, rename new (all)}, {skip, skip all}, ..., but {skip identical, skip identical (?)}, got it?

Thanks,
TheTruth

Skip Identical is Skip Identical All :slight_smile:

Maybe the label should be changed to include "All" so that it's consistent with the other labels. (I'd vote for "Skip All Identical")

I think it is worth noting that "same name, date and size" isn't the same thing as identical, although from this is apparently (from the informal "what's new") what is meant by "identical" here. (I don't think this is documented in the manual.) I wonder if it would be possible/practical to calculate MD5 (asynchronously, perhaps, in case it would be too slow) when the copy/move dialog is waiting for a user decision? It would be useful to flag up explicitly the degree of similarity between source and destination in the dialog when a "... All" option hasn't been chosen, i.e. "Same Name/Time/Size/Contents".

@nudel

:astonished: Of course, I haven't come up with this just because of the naming convension. Actually, I got mad clicking the Skip Identical button while I was merging folders with a lot of nested identical folder contents into 1 folder. I'm unable to retest at the moment anyhow, but it'll depend.

So, the real question now is: does identical here use Byte Comparison or Date/Time/Size criteria?

It uses date and size. If you want a more secure method you are probably better off using the Synchronization function.

Currently, it's not "Skip all identical"... at least not in a way that makes it useful for larger file operations :wink:
It skips all files which it detects as identical, but for each and every non-identical file it asks again, which can be thousands on a large file synchronisation, and makes this completely useless in this case.

Of course, one could use the synchronisation dialog in this case, but just copying by drag and drop would be much simpler. I have been using a similar "replace older"-function in another file manager for years without problems.

As a workaround, currently I have put the commands "copy UPDATEALL WHENEXISTS=replace" on "Drag & Drop Shift", which makes exactly what I want. It replaces all non-identical files without asking.

If you choose both 'Skip Identical' and 'Replace All' it will do both (ie, pick whichever one makes sense the first time the dialog comes up, then pick the other one the second time.)

Ah, ic, thanks.
But this is not really clearly to understand if you don't know this, I think? Maybe this could be improved in a future version.

@phoenix64

Aha, I can understand what happened with me then.

It seems that the Confirm File Replace dialog wasn't handle the Ctrl key pressed very quicky. I kept holding the Ctrl key down to activate the Skip Identical command when the dialog popus up and kept clicking it for very conflict, but it seems it wasn't prompting for Identical but for non-idntical ones, but the dialog was poping up ignoring the initial case of the Ctrl key and converts to it slower than my clicks, so I was actually clicking Skip for non-Identical files, duh.

So, jon, allow me to change my feature request to be as follows:
[ul]1. Have an option in the Prefs dialog to allow users to choose what Identical would use as a criterion for skiping files Date/Size or Byte comparison (as File Sync is not always feasible for some cases).

2. Have the Confirm File Replace dialig previews the Key Modifiers before being activated so it shows up with the right command selected as the default button.

3. Consider phoenix64's ovservation.[/ul]

After which, I think Microsoft should conduct their claimed Usability Survey on Dopus and Dopus users to learn how NOT to come with such chocking and disappointing Vista Explorer.

Thanks jon, greg for your apparent commitment to make Dopus one and the best File Managers ever created for the Windows platform. I like your work so much.

Reagrds,
TheTruth

I tried different options but I still can't understand, how can I copy only changed files?

If you only want to copy changed files, using Copy Update All is probably the easiest thing. (Note that it won't copy empty directories; it only cares about files.)