I have to click 3-5 times until file rename is possible (Word 2016)

Hi forum and Opus support team,

unfortunately, after installing Office 2016, I'm still seeing the problematic behavior as already discussed here.

After clicking on a file name in a lister, the preview pane takes the focus away from the file list. Thus, in order to rename the file, I have to click on the file name another two times (at least).

Below is a screenshot of my ActiveX Preview configuration.

Additionally, I have to say that the Office (DOC) preview is very slow. It takes like five seconds until the preview appears. What's more, the top of the document always is cut off:

The top of the document only appears after resizing the preview pane!

What could be done to improve these two issues, especially the former?

David.P

What do you see in Windows Explorer's viewer panel for the same file?

Nothing! Windows Explorer shows no document preview whatsoever anymore as of recently (not even for PDF or TXT), only for images :frowning:

Your MS Office install is broken in that case, which could be the reason for the problems you're seeing in Opus. (It's possibly trying more than one viewer which fails until it finds one which works. Explorer may give up sooner.)

I would try repairing/reinstalling MS Office. Focus on getting its viewer working in Explorer. If it's working correctly there it should then work the same in Opus.

A quick search found this advice for the Excel preview handler, which may also apply to Word: support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3100511

But Explorer shows nothing: TXT, PDF, JS, AHK, MHT, INI, you name it. Only bitmaps are previewed.

That can't be due to the Office installation.

Perhaps something has broken a lot of the preview handlers on your system.

The other formats don't really matter if you are not interested in them, but if the Office preview handlers are not working in Explorer then you need to fix them there before worrying about Opus.

Thanks, will try to find a fix for the bulk preview handlers problem.

OK so now I freshly installed Windows 10 on a blank disk, and an Office 2007 trial in order to finally get modern previewers for Explorer and Opus.

Believe it or not, I still don't get any document preview in Explorer (only images), and a rather slow and rudimentary one in Opus. Every time I select a Word file in Opus, the Office setup starts running instead of the file being shown........

Thankful for any ideas :confused:

PS: Screenshot

We can help most if a viewer works in Explorer but not in Opus.

But if an Office viewer is not working in Explorer then the problem is outside of Opus, and probably in the Office viewer, and we can only offer a limited amount of knowledge.

Have you tried a forum of Office experts to see if they've heard of similar problems and have advice?

Is any antivirus installed on the new test machine? Are you trying with the same documents, or some new test ones made with the version of Office you're aiming to use the viewers from?

Searching the web for office 2007 trial preview handler gets some results, which have some things to try:

vistax64.com/vista-file-mana ... -pane.html

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 749?auth=1

(and possibly more; I didn't keep clicking)

Thanks for the tips. No antivirus is installed. And it is not only Office files. Explorer previews only bitmaps, nothing else. There is a lengthy unresolved thread about the exact problem here, and I have posted to it already.

And strangely, if the right pane in Windows 10 Explorer is set to show "Details" instead of "Previews", it actually does show little previews of document files like DOC and PDF at the top of the details list.

Also, thumbnails of all files are displayed correctly. Only the preview itself does not work.

Anyway, probably I should go to a Windows 10 forum with this problem.

For what it's worth, I eradicated a jumble of different Office installations from my Windows 10 system, and started anew from scratch by only installing Office 2003. This time I additionally made sure that I ran the Office Installer in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode.

What should I say, the Word 2003 previewer works like a charm in Opus (by the way much cleaner and faster than the Office 2010 previewer that I just had tried), and what's more (and this is new, probably due to Windows 10 handling window focus differently): previewing a Word file finally does not take away the focus from the file list anymore!

The preview in Windows Explorer is still broken for all document formats though.

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Corrigendum: Previewing a Word file in Dopus STILL takes away the focus from the file list, using the "legacy Office 2003 and older" preview option.

What's more, I installed a trial of Office 2007 because I need its functionality otherwise for conversion purposes. Now, when I preview a Word file in Dopus, the focus is not only taken away from the file list -- Dopus itself looses focus (i.e. the title bar becomes grey) :frowning:

If only after like a decade of problems I could find a way to preview those Office files reliably :frowning:

Is there a simple third party MS Office preview tool that is compatible with Dopus?

Do not use the "legacy Office 2003 and older" option. It's a deprecated option for legacy versions of Office and should not be used with newer versions of Office that include preview handlers.

If you fix the broken preview handlers in your copy of Office, things should work smoothly.

If your preview handlers are still not working anywhere (i.e. even in Windows Explorer) then this thread doesn't really have anything to do with Opus and you're really asking in the wrong forum for help. A forum or support avenue about Microsoft Office will have people with more expertise.

I feel like I am repeating myself somewhat here.

Quick View Plus is probably the one to look at.

IMHO the "legacy Office 2003 and older" Word preview is better than the Office 2007 preview.

The Office 2003 preview does not lose focus (as bad) as the Office 2007 preview, it is much faster, and shows the file nicely in page layout mode.

Anyway, since at the moment the Office 2003 preview works great again, this is resolved (knock on wood)

(Apart from inline rename still not fully working of course).

Windows Explorer preview is still not working for ANY document file. This is the same on my Laptop, so it seems to be a general Windows 10 problem.

[quote]IMHO the "legacy Office 2003 and older" Word preview is better than the Office 2007 preview.

The Office 2003 preview does not lose focus (as bad) as the Office 2007 preview, it is much faster, and shows the file nicely in page layout mode.[/quote]
Possibly because your Office 2007 preview handlers are broken.

The legacy method us usually much slower, and prone to taking focus when the preview handlers are not.

For what it's worth, I'm using DOpus 11.19 on Windows 10 Pro with a standard Office 2010 installation. These two show me using the preview in both DOpus (top picture) and Windows File Explorer (bottom picture).



I'd be so glad if this could be fixed...

Believe it or not, I bought both Office 2007 and Office 2016 only in order to finally get those Word files previewed in Dopus.

After trying it out with both Office versions however, the problem is still the same. Initially, the previews take a few seconds to appear in the Dopus preview pane. Then firstly, the documents are shown in web view mode (continuous view), while at the same time Dopus loses focus for a couple of seconds. After this, the focus comes back to Dopus (the Dopus title bar becomes blue again) and at the same time, the Word document preview switches to page view mode.

What's more, the same happens even when I disable everything in the preview configuration dialog except Microsoft Office 2003 legacy mode as can be seen from below screenshot. Even then, the preview is obviously generated by the Office 2016 file previewers (which clearly can be seen from the Office 2016 context menu that comes up when selecting text in the preview pane, see screenshot further below).


Please help to figure out what could be causing this problem.

It may be worth trying this out, get a copy of PreviewConfig. This little program can enable different file types to be viewed in preview panes. You can get PreviewConfig here:

winhelponline.com/blog/previ ... ows-vista/

I have used this program to enable the viewing of files in the Everything Search Preview Pane. It might help you. No guarantees. :wink: