hi
installed opus 10 on win 8.1 64 bit, ctrl N dont create new folder, no keyboard shortcuts seems to work
any idea?
thanks
hi
installed opus 10 on win 8.1 64 bit, ctrl N dont create new folder, no keyboard shortcuts seems to work
any idea?
thanks
Did you try to install the latest Beta?
Have you turned off the Operations toolbar that contains the New Folder button? The hotkey is part of the button by default.
arrrghhh - YES - sorry, thanks
Oops, i must have mixed it up with this: "Windows 8.1 broke the replacement of certain Windows-key hotkeys, fixed"
Yeah, the thing in the beta release notes only affects a few specific hotkeys which use the Windows key. It won't affect normal hotkeys for commands in the lister.
Does anyone else think that keyboard shortcuts not working because the toolbar is hidden is pretty duff? The entire point of keyboard shortcuts is that you don't need on-screen clickable actions and can operate the software using the keyboard only!
I really want to switch off, for example, the menu toolbar (ie the one with File/Edit/Tools/Settings) as it takes up loads of valuable screen estate and all the common operations I use are accessible through keyboard shortcuts. However very frustratingly I need to leave this UI component switched on so that basic commands (eg Control-C, or F6) work. Please GPSoftware if you are listening... all keyboard shortcuts should work regardless of which toolbars are shown on screen. I have never come across any other piece of Windows software that works the way yours does so you guys must have done something very non-standard in the code to make the program function as it does at present
To do that we would have to define all those commands in two places, and then if you edited one it would not affect the other, which brings with it other problems.
The best we could do is offer to move hotkeys in a toolbar you were turning off into standalone hotkeys, but then you'd have duplicate hotkeys if you turned the toolbar back on again.
If you want to turn off the menu toolbar, but keep its hotkeys, a quick way to do it is to make a Menu or a Button Menu on another toolbar, then drag everything from the toolbar into that menu. Then the hotkeys will still work, since they're part of the toolbar you're keeping, but the items won't be taking up much space (just one button at the top level, containing everything that was in the old toolbar).
This is exactly how i solved the problem here. It doesn't matter, how deeply those buttons are buried in an always-on menu, so they won't be in the way.
[quote="leo"]To do that we would have to define all those commands in two places, and then if you edited one it would not affect the other, which brings with it other problems.
The best we could do is offer to move hotkeys in a toolbar you were turning off into standalone hotkeys, but then you'd have duplicate hotkeys if you turned the toolbar back on again.
If you want to turn off the menu toolbar, but keep its hotkeys, a quick way to do it is to make a Menu or a Button Menu on another toolbar, then drag everything from the toolbar into that menu. Then the hotkeys will still work, since they're part of the toolbar you're keeping, but the items won't be taking up much space (just one button at the top level, containing everything that was in the old toolbar).[/quote]
Wholeheartedly agree that defining the hotkeys twice doesn't make sense. But the fact that hotkeys bound to toolbar buttons are only 'available' when the toolbars are on is just how things currently work. If inclined to do so, wouldn't you be able to modify the way it works today to make hotkeys available even when the toolbars whose buttons they are bound to are switched off?
I ask because then you could conceivably add a per-toolbar option on each toolbars customize page to "Make toolbar button hotkeys available when toolbar is turned off"...? This way, you could turn such an option ON by default for the important default toolbars in order for ppl to always have access to fundamentals like Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, F1, etc... But then users could leave an option like this OFF for their own custom toolbars - where they might even have good reasons to re-use the same hotkey bindings for different buttons on different toolbars, which would then only become active when they switch between such toolbars.
I dunno, just thinking out loud . Seems like it would be useful to be able to differentiate 'always on' hotkeys at a toolbar level... I lost the hotkey for Help when I nuked the default Operations toolbar, and had this same thought at the time
though I naturally just bound a regular hotkey for F1 to have access to help.
Great idea — it gets my vote. Once you have learned the hotkeys on a toolbar, you would no longer need to keep it there taking up screen space.
I'd rather add hotkeys onto a toolbar than directly into "Customise - - > Keys", so I'm imagining creating a special "MyHotkeys" toolbar that I keep hidden except when I am editing the hotkeys that I have put onto it.
Hmm.
More thinking out loud...
Some years back when I was actively learning my way around Opus, I collected toobars like they were going out of fashion. I wanted to see how others were doing things, and getting other folk's good ideas. I ended up with over 70 of them! And through inertia, I still have them all!!!
My default layout these days consists of the GP layout as issued, plus one toolbar of my own devising. This meets my needs, so I could (and probably should) go and delete all of those superfluous toolbars. But I tell myself that, who knows, there may be an undiscoverd gem to be uncovered one day, should the need arise.
My point is that, had they all had active hotkeys imagine the chaos. So, steje's suggestion of an ON/OFF switch for hotkeys that can remain active in unused toolbars would become vital.
Yeah, I wouldn't ever want ALL toolbars to ALWAYS make their hotkeys available. That could be problematic with FAR fewer than 70 toolbars (but... DAMN Bernard!). I have several toolbars that I use for working on different types of media. I never really more than one of them open at the same time, and most of them have their own buttons that perform a certain rename preset which I always use the same hotkey for (Ctrl+F2) so... well... I guess I really didn't need to pollute the thread further by agreeing with you about agreeing with myself .
I started a somewhat related thread just before this one was started--
My solution has been to remove the toolbar commands and create hotkeys with their content. Unless somebody has a simpler solution, this let's me keep all the hotkeys I'm used to without worrying about the toolbar state, as well as guaranteeing consistency across all listers.