I'd like to 'lock' the Tree in the left window pane, so, the tree will not start
shifting when dragging folders/files from the right window pane to the left
(tree)-pane.
When doing so and scrollng down the tree, the tree start shifting and
in worse case starts disappearing (cannot see the drive letters anymore).
Is it possible to fix/lock the position of the tree, so that it will not shift to
the left.
I have not found any setting to that effect.
thank you - have posted something similar elsewhere but there was no
feedback, so I guess time has come to submit this as an idea.
(see examples - the top one: tree normal situation, bottom: after having dragged some folders from right to left...)
This forum is just for discussing feature requests. You should submit a feature request to GPSoftware if you want it implemented and don't think there will be any further discussion as they may not see, or may later forget about, this forum post.
This forum is just for discussing feature requests. You should submit a feature request to GPSoftware if you want it implemented and don't think there will be any further discussion as they may not see, or may later forget about, this forum post.[/quote]
Thank you, was not aware of that. Just did submit the idea.
brgds
Do you want to avoid the tree scrolling because it means you end up dropping on the wrong thing, or do you just want to prevent drag & drop from messing up how you'd positions the tree?
If it's the 2nd reason, what if the tree snapped back to the previous scroll position when the drag & drop was done? That way you could still drag & scroll to items which aren't currently visible in the tree, but you wouldn't be left with a mess afterwards.
[quote="nudel"]Having said that, I'll discuss the feature.
Do you want to avoid the tree scrolling because it means you end up dropping on the wrong thing, or do you just want to prevent drag & drop from messing up how you'd positions the tree?
If it's the 2nd reason, what if the tree snapped back to the previous scroll position when the drag & drop was done? That way you could still drag & scroll to items which aren't currently visible in the tree, but you wouldn't be left with a mess afterwards.[/quote]
Sorry, I am afraid that I donot quite follow you, because either way, bottomline is that the tree remains visable... right?
On the other hand, I guess the 2nd option might be a bit of a, how to say, 'restless' view, when the tree is snapping to and fro.
Honestly have no clear opinion on this, but tend to have a preference for the first option : having an option to lock the tree.
(arrgg... i just discovered the padlock at the top of the left windowpane, this definitely helps a lot, when closed! feel a bit embarrassed ...
but still, i cud get the tree shifted as much as that i cud see only the last words of the foldernames. the branches, they got off-screen.
workaround: if i donot drop the file or folder, but whilst holding the left-mousebutton pointing it a bit to the left, then the branches shift and
tree/branches get visable again.
this is especially happening when changing drives.
I too have this issue, with my longer network mounted drives the name is too large for the tree pane, so the pane flick to the right to the end of the directory name. This however obscures the left-hand (And most important) part of the tree.
I wondered if scroll-lock on the keyboard would work as it does in a few (very rare) programs, but it didn not.
Being able to force left-alignment of the tree would be hugely valuable. Of course, one coudl always make the tree pane bigger, but then not everyone has a 1600x1200 screen to play with
[quote="Nudel"]Do you want to avoid the tree scrolling because it means you end up dropping on the wrong thing, or do you just want to prevent drag & drop from messing up how you'd positions the tree?
If it's the 2nd reason, what if the tree snapped back to the previous scroll position when the drag & drop was done? That way you could still drag & scroll to items which aren't currently visible in the tree, but you wouldn't be left with a mess afterwards.[/quote]
What he's talking about also happens when the user navigates through folders in the lister pane. If you navigate up and down the directory structure in the lister pane, the Folder Tree starts to be come unusable as a "road map with GPS" because you can no longer see the left edge. It gets confusing and frustrating at times, especially when working between folders with similar or identical subfolder structures.
[quote="denyerec"]I too have this issue, with my longer network mounted drives the name is too large for the tree pane, so the pane flick to the right to the end of the directory name. This however obscures the left-hand (And most important) part of the tree.
I wondered if scroll-lock on the keyboard would work as it does in a few (very rare) programs, but it didn not.
Being able to force left-alignment of the tree would be hugely valuable. Of course, one coudl always make the tree pane bigger, but then not everyone has a 1600x1200 screen to play with [/quote]
I really like the Left-Aligned idea. If I need the right edge, I'll scroll there. Automation should apply the 80/20 rule. Here, I would bargain that 80% of the time, left aligned is where most users want the Folder tree. The other 20% of the time, we can manually scroll there, or the drag and drop should scroll us there. But even then Opus should scroll the tree right when the user enters a subfolder whose Folder Tree icon would otherwise be out of view (because it is so deep). In such a case, the tree should scroll right such that the icon of this subfolder, and perhaps about 5 characters of its name, comes into view, but not the whole folder name.
An alternative / additional suggestion to that would be to have the tree scroll-right on drag-drop operations (Where required) and snap back Left-Aligned when the operation is complete.
Since I don't write Opus I can't really say what the chances are of improvements being made in this area but they'll be a lot higher if someone submits a feature request with a good description of the idea.
I think I'd have to read though all of this thread a couple of more times to fully understand what everyone is asking for. A lot of the problems with the tree scrolling around and not being able to see the left/right edge of the tree seem inherent with tree controls and are one of the reasons I don't like using trees for directory navigation. (Trees can work quite well for shallow structures with short names but directory structures don't tend to be like that.) Of course, if there are ideas for making the tree better then I'm sure GPSoftware will consider them if they're submitted and easy to understand.
I have submitted the idea as a feature request way back in May.
They wud have a look at it.
Hope this thread may help someone to get it implemented.
(have posted along the link to this thread).
I have the same issue and was referred here. Maybe my images will show the problem more clearly.
When I have a folder tree pane open (which is always), and drag files into it to a new folder to move or copy them, the name of the folder in the tree "shifts" to the right. ie, when the folder names are longer than the width of the folder window, those names shift to the right. This is often convenient because you can now read the test which was initially off-screen. Howver the problem is that AFTER the copy or move, the folder tree view stays right-shifted. So one has to go back to the tree pane, and shift the view back to the left (with the scroll bar at the bottom of the pane), before being able to do another move/copy. This is because one now cannot read the folders with short names (they are off screen to the left) nor can you see the little + signs that indicate a tree expansion. I find this a lot of extra key strokes.
What I would like is for the folder view can be set to automatically revert to the left, so you can see the folder names again. Or better for me, lock the tree view so it never shifts to the right and becomes obscured. (This latter may not suit everyone, who do not know the names of the long folders, but I only need to see the first few words anyway).
Here is what the view looks like after the text has moved to the right. Note (on the left side) that you cannot properly see the folders anymore because the names moved to the right automatically:
After the copy, it stays like this. Thats what is annoying.
Here is the format I would prefer it automatically reverts to, or can be locked into. In other words, go back automatically to the way it was:
Thanks for the suggestion mrwul. I tried this, and it does help a bit, but its very frustrating to me to not have the folder tree follow the source. I get confused that way.
Are you aware that you can have two folder trees: one for the Source and one for the Destination?
You can save this configuration as a lister Style, or update one the current listers styles on the Tabbar by changing it, right-clicking on it, and selecting Update.
Wud like to bring up this old issue again. Really hoped it wud have been solved in v.9 but noticed the problem still exists ... ??
When wishing to drag-drop from the left window-panel into a folder in the left window-panel but then first scrolling down
to select the right folder in that panel, the trees still shifts when DO notices many subfolders ...
At some point I donot know which drive I am on, or which rootfolder.
User shd at least have the option to always see the drive letter, even though the subfolders may only partially displayed.
In that case the user might wish to increase the left window-panel.
Or did I overlook an option in preferences that I need to tag ??
because either way, bottomline is that the tree remains visable... right?
i just discovered the padlock at the top of the left windowpane, this definitely helps a lot, when closed! feel a bit embarrassed ...
