When one is choosing toolbars to customize in the toolbars menu tab it would be great to have a preview of what each toolbar looks like because names become somewhat undescript at some point. It hard to know which version of a toolbar you are working on without seeing what it looks like or even what toolbar you're selecting when you're building your location toolbar.
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A graphic could be put into the Customize - Toolbar Tab screen for each individual toolbar.
- If you Right-click on the toolbar you want to edit, then Customize, it will auto open to that toolbar.
- When in the Customize editor, double-click on a toolbar name will highlight it in the lister.
Turn it on and you can see it. If it’s not the one you want, turn it off again. Clicking the checkbox once or twice is as easy as any other method to see the toolbar would be, surely?
I was thinking like on the properties page or whatever you call this display. There's plenty of room. However, then you have to open it to see it. The best solution would be beside the name but the dynamics would have to change to be easily visible because minute details are what can make the difference between the right and wrong one toolbar.
I'm not sure I'm following. There are only like 3 places on my dual vertical lister I can context click to get to customize. It has to be a blank space on a toolbar.
look for the green "Here"
Turn what on?
You can also press the Lister/Opus icon in the top left, or right-click the Title Bar and choose 'Customize Toolbars and Keys...'. No need to find blank space on any of the bars then:
What @Crash meant is that while you are in the Customize panel, you can double-click the Toolbar's name in the sidebar. This will make it blink in the Lister, making clear what bar that name belongs to. As long as the Customize panel isn't blocking it. So simply double-click the selection here:
I'm pretty sure @Leo just meant to use the checkboxes to turn the bar on and off to see if you are working on the correct one.
The Lister is kind of acting like a preview when you're in the Customize panel to begin with.
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OK but the catch with that is that the Customize Panel itself almost covers my entire screen and is not resizeable which I reported elsewhere. This will identify an existing toolbar but when you're trying to find one you want to add it's a bit sloggish.
I didn't know about the double-click so thanks for that. I did try this and the particular toolbar was unseen until I moved the customize panel partially off the screen. That's partly why I came up with the mini-images. Is there a way to change the color flash? It's a darker blue not easily seen on a dark theme especially on a smaller toolbar or one that maybe be mostly hidden.
In the location bar customization in preferences is a place I'm specifically concerned about because all you have is a list of toolbars on the left that you can add to the location bar. Unless i just got done naming what I'm looking for I have to add a toolbar to see what I get and because of the limited space of the location bar in a dual display it's not always so easy to see then you have to consider truncation issues or drop-downs and how easily that will be to use in actuality. That means you have to close the customize to even get a feel for that toolbar because they don't work in customize mode. Then you might find you picked the wrong toolbar that the one you have has a lot of the elements you removed, etc.
Also, when your choosing toolbars then you have to resort to trying or turning them on just to see what they are. This too is part of my thinking in having a mini-image so you don't have to go through trying to find that mis-named toolbar that you're looking for.
Hopefully once I'm happy with my setup I won't be needing to change it often although you're always tweaking at the edges.
It is resizable, it just has a minimum size.
You're using a very low-res screen and a font size that's very large for it, which is why it takes up so much of the screen.
Low res? 1920 x 1200 which Windows magnifies 125% I can go to 2560 x 1600 which then get's magnified by 150% but it's smaller type than I have now.
I'm not a 20 yo and I'm having issues with small type.
Here's the difference at max resolution
It does add ines at the bottom but I can't read them. Even with my readers on it's a struggle.
If I go up to 175% magnification then it's even covering more of my screen than the lower resolution.
Resolution is how many pixels represent the overall view. How many pixels they can use to display all the elements on your screen. As resolution goes up you get more stuff on the display but unless the screen get's larger everything has to get smaller.
The first screenshot was 1745×1093 which is less than 1080p (1920x1080).
Even at 1080p, applying anything above 100% scaling will result in a low effective screen size, in terms of how much can fit on screen.
Up to you how you configure things, of course, but on a typical system the Customize dialog doesn't take up anywhere near that much space, and software is usually designed for 1080p @ 100% as the minimum. Parts of the OS itself won't fit on screen if you go much lower.
Well of course it cannot take up the entirity of the display. I have the Window's taskbar/status bar on the top edge and I have what they used to call Window's Sidebar on the right with applets I use on a regular basis. I have the biggest screen they even make on a laptop anymore 17" most are now 16".
I don't know if you wear reading glasses but they suck on computers because the distance from your eye's to your display is longer than the length of your arms which is where readers are designed to work. They're essentially more work than they are a help,
I'm using that's not a struggle for me to read.
What you're showing me is your tiny customization screen on a 3840 x 2160 but I can't read it. If I click on the image 1 time it makes it only large enough to fit in my browser width. If I click 2 times, it's natural size, just a quarter of the panel covers most of my display. That left upper quadrant measures 1683 x 899 and on your screen that measure 690 c 363. 1080p is an idea for videos to display more detail to make it appear more realistic not necessarily computer dipslays.
There's no way I can get to that resolution nor does my display support it but what size display are you using?
A, not intended-to-be-rude, suggestion is to purchase a second inexpensive monitor. I find two monitors a productivity game changer. 
I think you probably should have a dash between not and intended. Almost looks like "intended-to-be-rude".
I had an old 24" Dell monitor that I used on a Dell Workstation I had some years back that had a dual monitor connection. I tried to use it at some point and then realized there's no ports on laptops anymore to have an external monitor. Kind of went the way of the Blue-rays and CD's even though they were storage for what you owned and now you can stream it but then you have no ownership. You essentially give it back when you're done. In my lifetime we collected 45's, 33 1/3rds, Cassettes, 8-Tracks, CD's, even reel-to-reel, VHS tapes, Beta tapes...it feels funny to no longer own this stuff not that much of it is worth owning anymore.
I'm not sure there is any such thing as a cheap monitor although you can buy an 80 foot TV for like $50. A monitor the last time I looked is very expensive and for no reason.
The other issue that I have is space and where to put it. I bought a laptop for it's portability and it's footprint. I already have 2 drives hanging off of it. I'd have to buy something to put it on and then I'm going to be gettting around it sitting in my living room if it's even connectible through some method like USB.
Using a mini laptop on the side, I completely understand having a laptop without much space to move the Customize panel around.
Instead, I would suggest to drag and move whichever toolbar you want to be working on to the very top or side (left or right) of the Lister, then customize and edit it however you please, and when done move it back into position. That way the Customize panel doesn't block the toolbar in question while you're still able to work on it just fine.
I hadn't thought about that. That may be helpful.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
The whole reason I put this out here was about showing the toolbars in the list rather than just a name and a checkbox.
This already exists for the defaults.
If it's built dynamically then this is an easy fix to transport it to the list of toolbars.
Where would it fit? You say there's plenty of space, but reality begs to differ 
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I'm fairly sure those are not dynamic, but in case they are, would you happen to have a concept of how that would work and should look like when it comes to your mostly vertical bars? Would that need a different section/tab altogether?
