Haven't you just said that lighttable sort belongs to image management programs?
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Hi nudel,
sorry that it took me such a long time to come back to you. Christmas, and quite a lot of work, you know...
It works fine for me. I use it all the time. What doesn't work for you? Are you sure you're not doing something like filtering Files and Folders, and filtering out the parent folders and thus everything below them? [/quote]
Well that could be one reason. However, Dopus behavior seems not entirely consistent, or at least difficult to understand and handle. If I switch to Flat View first, and then put some expression in the File Filter Box, Dopus acts as expected, and filters the entire list -- even if I filter Files and Folders (as I always seem to do).
If, however, I start the other way round by putting my expression in the File Filter Box, and only then switch to Flat View, Dopus doesn’t catch all respective files all the time. Maybe it does if I only filter files, and not folders, but this is really difficult to check all the time when switching to Flat View.
Anyway, this really is some minor issue for me.
[quote="nudel"] [quote]# Make the normal find dialog usable as well inside file collections.
How about the possibility to search for files "inside previous search results"![/quote]
The first feature would give you the second. Not sure if it's been requested (via GPSoft support) beyond some brief discussion in the forums. [/quote]
I have submitted that feature to the developers as well.
Not sure why Ctrl-F doesn't work there since it's just IE. Has this been brought up before? I don't remember anyone pointing it out but I haven't looked at the ActiveX stuff for a while so maybe I forgot about it. I'll make sure it's on my list of things to look at in the ActiveX plugin, either way. [/quote]
Thanks already for checking this issue.
That would be cool, I agree. [/quote]
The upcoming Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0 has this also for its preview pane. Amazing feature! However probably much more difficult to implement in Dopus because of all the different viewers that are used to display file contents.
Not a bad idea, could be done by allowing the {thumbnail} infotip code to take a size argument. But is also something that the viewer pane takes care of to a large degree, I think. [/quote]
Agreed. Anyway, I have like five different stages of file preview 
:
1.) Small; or
2.) large icons show (image) file contents [by Xentient Thumbnails, great!];
3.) on clicking-and-holding the mouse on an (image) file, I get a medium sized preview popup on the Desktop and in file open dialogs [by KO Approach, also great!];
3.) Dopus shows a floating thumbnail of almost any file on mouseover [bloody amazing feature created after my respective feature request in 2003 :D]
4.) on switching to thumbnail mode in Dopus, I get thumbnails for almost every file type [ditto;]
5.) lastly, here comes the Dopus Preview Pane into play.
Would you be happy waiting the extra second or so (whatever the double-click time is) for the preview pane to update after single-clicking? I think it'd be annoying, at least for image file types which load instantly. Maybe on a per-filetype basis or something. [/quote]
I find it annoying sometimes with large PDF files. I double-click on the file, and Adobe Reader must open the file twice -- one copy inside the preview pane, and another one in Adobe Reader. What’s more, if I work on a PDF file in Adobe Acrobat, every time I save the file, Dopus updates the file also in the preview pane -- which sometimes even makes Dopus jump in the foreground and back, which can be somewhat disrupting for my concentration. Well, and double-click times are like in the range of about 300 milliseconds, so the delay for updating the preview pane would not be a problem.
I agree with you however that this feature would be just perfect on a per-filetype basis.
Which ones does it not work for? Which plugins handle them? [/quote]
Ctrl+C for "Copy" inside the preview pane seems not to work for html, mht and eml files, all handled by the ActiveX viewer.
If you've added the .tif extension to the ActiveX viewer then it's probably an incompatibility between my ActiveX plugin and AlternaTIFF. I've been working towards a native multipage-TIFF plugin; there's still a bit more work to do on it but I hope it will fill that feature hole.[/quote]
Yes, I've added the .tif extension to the ActiveX viewer, however AlternaTIFF still does not launch when a TIFF file is clicked on.
Anyway, lastly I’d like to remind once more my currently „most wanted“ feature: The persistent custom file sort for simple but efficient project management / paperless office --- e.g. have the files of a folder in a persistent custom sort order, like in an attorney’s paper file folder.
Cheers,
David.P
Hello all,
I've been trying to arrange the files in a custom order in D.O., and to be honest, I was surprized such an advanced program, doesnt offer this option.
For years, I've been using ACDSEE do to so (which does it not only in TN mode but also in detail mode) and then batch rename files numbering them according to my custom sort order.
Is there any way I can do this in D.O.?
Not at the moment, no.
Opus always sorts the files according to a criteria (name, size, date, etc.). It doesn't let you move things around, except by changing the attribute(s) which you're sorting by (e.g. renaming a file).
+1 for this feature
Below is one example for a rather robust implementation of custom file sort.
1.) Define an initial sort order by clicking on the appropriate column header.
2.) Rearrange files by drag and drop.
3.) Initialize Custom Sort e.g. by pushing the respective toolbar button.
4.) As a result, all files in the folder get re-named using a numbered prefix.
See here for an implementation example of this principle.
However, I'd rather prefer if files would NOT have to be renamed for custom sort. I think that this is rather awkward, plus you loose the ability to actually sort by the original file names.
I would not mind if directories that have been custom sorted in Dopus would not retain the custom sort in other file managers - as long as the custom sort is safely retained within Dopus.
Let me repeat that this would be THE killer feature for anyone working with "paperless project folders".
Otherwise it's really difficult (for me) to keep track and overview what happened at what stage of a certain project or case, because often I have like 50 to 100 documents of different file types inside a projects folder (see example below).
If I could start off with" sort by date" and then drag files up or down to perfect my sort order, it would be SO much easier to overlook which letter, draft or document came into play at what stage of my current case…
Thanks already for implementing that killer feature at the earliest possible time,
David.P
I'm not against this idea. It also seems to be present in Vista's explorer (although, much to my annoyance, I can't see a way to turn it off and whenever I drop a file in a random place within a folder (to copy it there) it turns off Name sorting and the folder is a mess from then until I manually re-sort... wonderful). But...
In your example, do all of the files have to be in a single directory? Is there a reason you can't group them into a few subdirectories? If not then you could use flat-view mode to see all of the files at once, ordered and/or grouped by subdirectory.
Hi Leo, thanks for the quick response.
That's interesting. No one ever seems to have mentioned this new feature.
I could certainly do that. However, to me every case folder (and there is lots of them) also has the function of a project time line (at least, if the custom sort feature finally is there).
Therefore, I'd really like to see at a glance at what point of the case I received a certain letter, what were the documents I worked on after that clients letter, which was my answer letter, what happened next and so on -- all that without having to use complicated project management software.
Simply put, the custom sort feature plainly resembles the function of a traditional paper folder -- albeit without the limitations of paper of course.
Thanks,
David.P
PS: Will I have to re-submit that request to the developers? (I think I did that already at some stage, however, without the examples).
Nah, having the idea in the database is the main thing. That avoids it being forgotten about.
Your scenario sounds a lot like sorting by Creation Date/Time, but I guess there will be documents created later which you want to group with earlier ones sometimes, without having to manually fiddle with setting the dates attributes.
Exactly.
Thanks,
David
I'll add my 2 cents saying that I'd really like this drag-n-drop sort feature as well. I use Fastone for my images but now I find that I'd like to burn a cd with songs in a certain order (according to my mood, not the filename) and it'd be great if DO supported this.
In your above said problme davidP, id suggest another route that is used by a lot of programmers 
... cvs or svn these systems provide a strict history of everything EVER done in a project 
...
SVN is what i currently use as a tool, when programming (its the "new" CVS, i.e. not a direct upgrade, but rather a sidegrade but with new features, that are very welcome).
You can incorporate the SVN features in dopus, by using its commands, so, that when you create a file, you have a svn create button, and a commit button, so that you can commit changes to your files.
SVN is actually much more than just a "date-first-sort", by 1st creation date. It stores ALL changes and WHICH changes every file undergoes in an entire project. You can list all these changes for every file by a few simple commands, and im sure, that with your wish to be able to access creation and etc. for your project, it will prove very viable, and id think it would go very well with dopus.
Hope you can use it
and good luck.
Best regards : Jacob Eskildsen.
Sorry, my programming experience is a couple of decades back already -- what might be the reason why I don't seem to understand one word of what you wrote 
Anyway, if you have a look at my lister screenshot a little way up this thread, all I need to do really is CUSTOM SORT all those files by mouse-drag-and-drop into some (persistent) custom order that is easy to change at any time.
I absolutely do not need a system for tracking changes of files or something like that.
David.P
Gah, suggestion: please upgrade forums to allow editing of already posted posts 
Also, as an addition to my above post : "problme" => "problem"
and also; remember, that SVN stores all changes in a textual environment, so, in most cases, the direct change history is most easily accessible if all files are in human readable form, as SVN can make a direct view of what exaclty has changed. f.x. if i had committed a v. 1.2 of my above post with the above spelling correction, it would list the change log something like this:
L1:
<< In your above said problme davidP, id suggest another route .....
In your above said problem davidP, id suggest another route .....
Whereas, if you use PDF files or word documents (instead of using LaTeX), SVN would give a much larger difference, and most likely unreadable... but ... you can always recreate ANY version of ANY file, its just asking for a SVN checkout of a given version for a given file, (but then you would have to go compare yourself, between two documents (if e.g. pdf files)...
Well, over and out, and have fun
BEst regards : Jacob Eskildsen.
Again, thanks, but I don't get one single word of what you are saying...
Your contribution however does not quite sound as if it were much related to this thread which actually is about
"sorting files by dragging them up or down with the mouse".
David.P
Well, any way, i dont have the time to program a custom plugin that provides the functionality, that you wishes, but i can only say, try downloading the cvs or svn system (possibly wincvs (its a with a gui) 
)
and ye, it might seem like overkill to use such a system. though, its quite simple to use. ill try to explain again.
First SVN/CVS steps (in the manual, you can read all steps and commands needed):
1.) you CREATE a SVN folder/catalog
After the initial setup for the project:
1.) Create a new fileA
2.) you ADD the fileA in SVN
3.) you COMMIT the fileA
every time you change a file you commit it. every time you make a new file, you add it to the catalog.
Its quite simple, but maybe not what you want.... BUT ... it accomplishes what you want (maybe not in the exact same way as you want, but it gets the job done, and is very reliable (also, you might find some other benefits of the system, if you give some time to explore the system
All the SVN/CVS commands can be used in dopus button banks, like any other program/command, that you would normally use.
Editing is disabled on purpose because several users kept editing their questions after getting answers, either to ask new questions or to remove their original questions. This makes the forum impossible to follow for other people and far less useful. The odd typo we can live with.
sigh
it might seem like overkill
It does.
Its quite simple, but maybe not what you want....
Exactly.
also, you might find some other benefits of the system, if you give some time to explore
Really, I don't need, and I don't want a "version control system"...
This thread is about reordering files in a Dopus lister...............
David.P
I don't think CVS or SVN will do what DavidP wants. He'll still be effectively sorting files by last-modified date which can already be done in Opus with a normal filesystem view.
He wants to be able to arbitrarily re-order the files he sees, by dragging them around, and have that order remembered for the next time he views that directory.
Well, to add to the line, one could argue, that a "svn/cvs" alike system could be applied to the forums to see any and all changes to any post 
, but i dont even know if most generic forums allow this specialized feature
Anyways, i understand the decision
Best regards : Jacob Eskildsen.