(The minimum title limit is probably there to discourage empty subjects like “Why?” and “Why? and extraneous characters to at least 16 characters” I changed the title to a better one for you. Now people don’t have to click on the thread just to know what it is about.)
The servers the forum was on before had been fairly slow for a while but became downright broken recently, so we decided enough was enough and that it was time to move the forum to a new host.
I’ve been disappointed in phpBB for a while now, but moving forums (at least without losing all the old posts) is a huge task, so we made do and tried to improve phpBB as best we could. But there are some fundamental problems with it that you can’t really fix, unless you dedicate your life to it. So when we decided to move host, we chose to bite the bullet and change to a new forum software as well.
Discourse is a lot more modern than phpBB. Real time previews of what you are going to post. New messages appear without having to refresh the page. Much better notifications and ways to interact between users. Much better for mobile devices, without sacrificing the desktop experience. Much better auditing, so if someone edits or deletes a post we can still see (and optionally restore) what was there before, instead of it being wiped off the face of the earth (a terrible design for anything that uses a database with multiple users). This means people can edit their posts now, which in turn means everyone can stop complaining to us that they can’t find the edit button. Automatically pulls in images so image links don’t break. Syntax highlighting of code fragments. Better ways to tag and organise posts (which we aren’t fully taking advantage of yet, but will). The list goes on…
Here are some other people’s opinions on it:
Edit: I remembered the final straw with phpBB: A mail server changed, making the old configuration incorrect, and the site then began showing error messages in some situations with Full Path Disclosure issues.
Updating phpBB was a huge pain as well (even before we modded it; and once we had modded it, it was 10x worse). In Discourse, you just click one button. It’s fantastic.
at first I was like “crap, what is this, no, why do this to the community…” but then I realized that is is much better.
[quote=“Leo, post:4, topic:24705, full:true”] This means people can edit their posts now, which in turn means everyone can stop complaining to us that they can’t find the edit button. :D[/quote]
Yeyyy!!! at last, thx for the effort to switch!
EDIT: I added this very line to it. So, it actually works. YES!!! deletion works also as you can see by what is not there anymore. xD
again a huge thank you to the responsible ones.
Well, as far as I remember, I could edit my posts in “Script&Plugin Development” section. The only problem I was that I thought it was impossible, because that functionality was disabled in “Help&Support” (as I remember - that was made for purpose and even explained why). So I’m not sure it’s something new. Anyway - personally I don’t like this theme, is too bright and I found that I cannot change it in preferences. Maybe theme selector or sth like that? Reading posts on #FFFFFF background is eye-burning.
Many of the reasons for disallowing editing in Help & Support are fixed by the new forum software which handles things better. (Being able to see edit history and restore old versions, in particular.) Of course, we will see how things go. It could still turn out to cause problems.
Discourse doesn’t have a theme selector, unfortunately. (Discussed here.) You could use something like Stylish to modify the CSS, but we may change the theme ourselves anyway, once we’re done with fixing and organising all the imported posts.
Thanks for the explanation Leo. The new forum has a lot of improvements over phpBB.
What can be said about loss of text when entering a post: on some forums (phpBB) there are some timelimits (set by the forum admin?)
Users are then typing their post, click on the ‘submit’ button to discover they are logged out in the background and their post text is lost. A frustrating thing as they have to start all over.
Don’t know how this was on the phpBB version of resource.dopus, maybe there was no such thing, I don’t know.
Edit post afterwards surely is a great benefit!
What exactly do you mean with "Automatically pulls in images so image…"
Do you mean to say that when I post an imgur link, it pulls in the image, so once the image is deleted on imgur, it still resides within the forum?
It must be a tremendous lot of work to reorganize the forum.
Discourse seems to handle things better and is constantly talking to the server to check for new replies as you write yours, so I expect it won’t have problems with sessions timing out while you write a reply.
But do keep in mind that if you spend more than a few hours writing a reply, any attachments you uploaded for the post may be deleted and no longer work. (The forum periodically checks for uploaded attachments which no post is using and deletes them.) So if you leave a reply open for several hours it can cause problems, but having one open for a few minutes or even a couple of hours should be fine.
(Although if you are writing something that long and detailed, saving it into a text editor first is probably a good idea. The server might be down, especially at the moment while we are still having to restart it to change certain things. Or the internet might go down, etc.)
On phpBB you can normally hit Back in the browser and recover what you had typed, but not always and it was indeed a pain when that happened.
Yes, exactly. All those broken imageshack links on old posts should be a thing of the past.
I had started to do this manually after the problems with imageshack, so I’m really glad the forum automates it.
As an aside, Discourse has a much better backup process than phpBB (which was a complete joke, didn’t include files/attachments, and sometimes corrupted the SQL backup if it took too long to generate). So if anything catastrophic happens we should have more recent backups of the forum now than before. Backups are now automated, and can also be done by a single button push. With phpBB it took about an hour to do all the actions and checks necessary to do a full backup (posts + attachments) of the forum. phpBB was garbage.
Normally one wouldn’t spend so much time on posting a reply. But, I must confess, it sometimes happens once I start to search on Internet for possible extra information, links, whatever, to support a reply, but then start reading the ‘other’ stuff, forgetting about the post I was creating.
When getting back - I was logged out. The ‘Back’-button often didn’t help. Based on that experience, I often saved the text to clipboard before posting…
Pulling in the images is indeed a big improvement. Users may cancel their account with e.g. Imageshack (like I did last week, one has to pay 38 p/year and there are no improvements / changes over the last 1,5 year) or one might delete images/remove albums.
Anyway, good luck with the new forum, hopefully, once all is in order, you may have a few minutes extra for yourself …
Ouch, tbh the new forum software looks and feels less than good.
Not to mention that white background burns my eyes…which is also an additional reason
why I avoided W10 (W10 themed apps = white, flat, and annoying).
I would’ve preferred one of the regular forum types.
Btw, where is “Mark all as read”?
Thanks, I found it
Light doesn’t really help alot when the screen is almost completely white.
Btw, in the earlier software you used account linking where the username had a different color based on registration status.
Will this be used in this one?
Or you could have some text regarding registration status in the same position as your “Directory Opus developer” label.